Hi,

I don't agree with Eduard's points.

I come to this site every day with pleasure, to see if i can learn something new about B&O and his products.

Best Regards

Théo

Just want to comment regarding the Prize Draw draining funds. I hope that the majority of the gold members have not joined for the Prize Draw but rather to support this site. So if the prize draw hits the budget too much, then it should be abandoned or downsized and I don't think that the gold members will leave the site just because of that.

Another point: Has Eduard proposed any solutions or improvements to the issues he identified?

I think mr. Eduard has lost a bit of his faith in B&O... I mean B&O is becomming more different these days and they're searching for the wealthiest people instead of the normall design and a/v people with a bit more money to spent.

We still like B&O, but the group that really owns and wan't to own the newest products are becomming smaller and smaller 🙁. For example, everybody has got a Avant, MX or a LX in the past, but nowadays 50% replaces those older screens for a smaller lcd because the bigger B&O's are to expensive these days. 10% of the other people wants a bigger screen and they don't care about the money so they buy a bv4 or 9. And at least there is a group of 40% that want a bigger screen, but they haven't got so much money to spent or they don't want to spent so much on a screen that isn't as good as a screen 1/4 of the same money. This group will buy a Pioneer or what else, and maybe later a Blu-ray player from the same brand etc. In the end B&O will loose those 40% and thats starting already (look a the closed stores in the last 2 years)....

Hi Lee9,

 
I have only recently joined and at the moment I'm just a basic member so I am unable to comment on the points raised due to the little involvement I have had.

I found the site and it's features to be most informative and helpfull and it would appear that at the moment it is the only one of any real us available.

I do however have a couple of points, compared with some other sites/forums that I use on a regular basis I have found BeoWorld a bit difficulte / orquard to use.  Its use does not 'flow' as well as a lot of others and when reading posts of messages the writing can be distorted with either print being smaller in places or fading. Also  lines appear accross the writing making it unreadable.

 I can vary where on the writing the problems occure by reloading the page and the errors move to a different section. 

The time setting/zoning is a bit confusing as the 'to day & yesterday' messages and the fact that the site clock appears to be so far from UK real time does not either.

I think that the site provides a good source of information on B&O products of all ages and the choice of membership level and prizes is a unique feature that appears to be poular amongst those who have a real interst in the products rather than using it as a' means to an end' type of reference place.

Hope that all the above is taken in the right spirit, and appologies if this was not the place to express those points mentioned.

All the best

Boots 

P.S. Sorry about typos, unable to find the spell checker. 

This is a suprise...

I for one disagree most with what Ed has said.. I do have "concerns" with the prizes that are on offer as they are considerable and I would imagine that the money could be better spent but thats just my opinion.. that said, its a fantastic opportunity to win some B&O for £30.. how many p1ss this away on a friday night at the local boozer?

Is Beoworld a yes man to B&O? hope not and the recent posts on the outage of a certain Mr T should reiterate this..  I consider myself to be quite outspoken and find the direction of B&O to be confusing at the moment.. and question this repeatdly as do others so that B&O is part of the future and not a blip in the past which could quite easily happen if not managed well.

What I will say is that there are people on the forum who are at best naive when it comes to running a site like this and think that the odd donation here and there will pay but that is simply not the case.  What began as a past time for someone has now become a huge global interest and the responibilty of making sure this continues has to be addressed.  I find it amazing when people question the membership costs as to me these are now essential for a site of this size to continue.  I lost count of the times Beoworld was down with the old owner and the fact that there was a considerable amount of money from members aswell as equipment which were donated to help keep Beoworld alive but nothing was ever seen from this money or were we told what happened to it.

For an enthusiast site to have a "relationship" with its interest is unique, I am a member of numerous fan based forums and all distance themselves with these communities so to critisise this again is beyond me as I feel this is a step in the right direction as both can learn from one another.  Its all and well to employ "yes men" which I feel to a certain degree is what was possibly going on in B&O.

Is BW just numbers and statistics? no but it does help to see how big BW has become.  I remember when the forum was in a notepad format and was relatively primitive compared to what it is today.  Numbers and stats are essential in understanding how you are performing and helps aid desicions on improving and growing what you already have. I cannot recall there being a flood of posts on these counts, maybe if these are "offending" some then maybe we have a KPi page on BW for those members who are interested? some basic counts on growth, hits size etc?? at least that way its official and there for all to see without it being "in your face" as Ed may believe?

Just to add, I think there will come a point where people may lose interest etc and this I feel is maybe where the content may begin....  I do not post as much as I have a lot going on in my life at the moment but always take time out to have a quick look and see whats going on.   BW is not about one person but about a global community. I for one would be saddened if all that has been put into BW has been lost because of what I can only amount to petulance or "toys thrown firmly out of the pram" type scenarios from members but that said this does not mean that we are not allowed to agree/disagree or question the direction taken by the mods etc.

For what its worth, I am inclined to agree with what Beobird has written....  and fear that this will become a brand for the uber rich.

Hi beoworlders!

Here are my thoughts about Ed's points 

* BeoWorld only cares about numbers and statistics

I am very interested in the statistics of the site, because I want to know how Beoworld is doing, if it is progressing, getting new members etc. I think it is good for the site's health if it's members care about such things.

* We only care about what Bang & Olufsen think, and are not acting as an independent site

I can't really see the point here. Beoworld is an exchange platform for B&O-Fans, and every day you can find posts of people telling that they are not satisfied with a product or a service. I may not have looked "behind the curtains of Beoworld", but I have never felt like B&O would try to influence this site.

* PrizeDrawBot has a villa in Monaco, and spraying a BeoLab 2 Lamborghini White is too "bling bling" - this is BeoWorld now..

Beoworld is a site where people with similar interests meet. I don't care where they live, what color their speakers are, as long as I can have a good time here. 

* The Prize Draw is draining funds too much, and is not working. This could finish the site.

This is up to Lee. He bought and built up the site, and as far as I know him, he has made his previews and knows what to do.

… I can sense a lot of emotions here young apprentice, Master Yoda said.

(Though perhaps worth of quoting, I bet he didn’t have any B&O, or Beo, himself - how could he? How could he have known, then?)

😉