Tim wrote:

this is totally different with Speakers: They are as good as they get: There will probably nothing better then a Beolab 5 for a very long time. 

So, probably I'll get a Beolab 5 first :-)

Think I've read somewhere on this forum that Beolab 5 are going to be superseded soon, and there is a new flagship speaker currently in development......even better & more powerful than the BL5's..?

There will always be something better coming along with everything. I think human nature tends to make us think that when something new & fantastic comes along, it can't possibly ever be bettered - but it always is.

I'm coming to the same conclusion about technology and speakers Tim. Should make the Beolab 5's a bargain maybe. This year a Beolit 12 in Blue, and maybe a Beocentre 23 with DAB for the bedroom

Tod Daniel wrote:

I had a go with the Sony OLED screen (I think it was a 15inch model) Christmas 2010 in Selfridges, London. All I can say is stunning in terms of picture quality and the thinness like a piece of A4 paper was bizarre but amazing at the same time.

Everything looks stunning on a 15" screen, even SD :)

But, OLED screens are a long way from production level and, we all know B&O's lead time, even longer in a B&O TV. I can't imagine we'd see anything for a couple of years at the earliest. And even then they will be very expensive. I dread to think the price of a B&O OLED 55" TV!

As I've said before though, much of this picture quality comes from the source. You get an average SD signal and you'll get a poor picture on a 55" LCD. OLED won't improve the signal! LED/OLED simply show the picture "as is", flaws and all. Yes, you get better colour definition on, say, the BV7-55, perhaps better blacks, but the overall picture is defined by the source material.

Back to the topic of the first post:

No, I do not think that a 10-55 will ever reach the market - simply because it has been evaluated and dropped by B&O. As an alternative to BV9, I do think that the BV7-55 fit the job description - when I replaced my BV9 with the 7-55 mk1 I got a sharper picture with improved blacks, but the "moving picture" was not as good as on the plasma. Now, having replaced the screen with the mk2, I must admit that the BV9 is a bit outdated compared to the superior picture quality of the current 7-55. When it comes to size, the 9-deg angle of the BV9 means that the floor stand is exactly as far from the wall for both sets - but I do like the fact that the 7-55 with the low floor stand sits lower, allowing you to have pictures on the wall behind it. So in my setup, the 7-55 is less dominating with the low floor stand and the 7-6 speaker.

I do think that another important trend, along with OLED etc, is the XXL screen sizes. In the not too distant future a 70-80" TV will be considered normal. Remember the discussion back when the BV5-42 was launched? This was as big as a TV for a European living room could get.

Roger

If anyone has access to Sky Anytime, i sudgest you watch the CES Sky News report.

I have put my 7-40 Mk3 improvement plan on indefinite hold. Relevant to 55 inch.

Chris wrote:

If anyone has access to Sky Anytime, i sudgest you watch the CES Sky News report.

I have put my 7-40 Mk3 improvement plan on indefinite hold. Relevant to 55 inch.

Can you give us more detail? A synopsis of the report and/or a link? It will be online somewhere.

Saw it this morning on anytime. Right at the bottom of the list I think.

OLED years off, I think not. Retailing with Samsung and LG middle to end of the year. A real game changer. Smart tv,s were quite interesting but not really for me. The future though no doubt, with both google and apple both launching very soon.

Chris wrote:

OLED years off, I think not. Retailing with Samsung and LG middle to end of the year. 

That's still only speculation. Plus there will be limited sizes (32") and there's no way we'd see OLED from B&O for ages after. You know how much testing and caution they use when choosing new technology. Even if Samsung and LG release OLED panels this year, B&O will be at least (at least) 18 months later.

And, as I said above, OLED won't do anything for you if you don't have the right source material. It will show SD content in all its terribly glory if that's all you have connected to your TV. You need HD or higher to get the most from OLED. An OLED won't somehow turn a poor signal/SD in to a glorious picture. It won't smooth out a bad incoming image!

Chris wrote:

The future though no doubt, with both google and apple both launching very soon.

interesting that Apple's 1.4 million ATVs sold in the fourth quarter of last year still gets classified as a "hobby" because at US$99 they are barely a rounding error in their results ... it is interesting to play with the numbers to see what would make it not a hobby ... higher volumes ? more pull through ? or being a "real" TV ?

whatever they (Apple) do, just having OLED would not be enough of a differentiator or game changer ... not even sure voice based command and control will do it either ... it has to be iApps exploitation but as the next poster says the quality of your source has to be up to scratch, can you imagine a standard iApp being displayed in 1080P ++ resolution ?

I couldn't find the full show but here's the best of what i could find..

http://news.sky.com/home/video/technology/video/16148463

A much more in depth for more detail

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9qjfrQLvdM