Which TV should I buy - help!

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I have a MX7000 without STB-controller (a new STB-controller is not available). I'm based in Finland where it's almost all digital already now , and the cable companies are forced to switch to digital in one month.  Because of this, even my wife thinks it is a time to upgrade to a new TV in a month or so. We have a DVD 1, BS4 and a pair of BL3's and thus we'd love to get a reasonably priced, all-digital B&O TV. Since it is not available, the options are:

1. BV8 with a Topfield DVB-C(cable) HDRecorder. Pros and Cons: Great design, no digital tuner(!)-"TV" - button in Beo4 useless. Not full HD=photos do not look as good, maybe not that big deal when watching TV. No surround module. BS4+BL3+DVD1 are integrated and share the same remote. 

 2. BV7 ith a Topfield DVB-C(cable) HDRecorder but without the speaker (to be used with the existing BL3's. Super luxury product (in a good way), great build quality, surround module, a second DVD-player (handy since there are childre in the hoyse. Way overpriced (even without the speaker still much more expensive than the BV8-option), old-fashion(?). Looks just too big in a normal-sized living room, BV8 is much better in this respect.

 3. Second-life Avant 32 VCR. Cheap, surround module and STB-controller build in. Great picture quality, great value for money. Poor waf - my wife really wants a flat screen (not that she would be happily wiling to pay 5000-10000€ for a TV)

4. Swap the BS4 and BL3 and buy the all-inclusive-system (BV7 with the integrated CD+DVD-player and the 7-speaker). Great system, ok even for music but I'd certainly miss the BS4+BL3 - combo (although I could live without the memory card, since I can easily use my Mac + Airport Express to listen to the music in my hard disk, I love the sound of BL3's). In a way I'd like the fact that there would not be too many electronic devices in my living room (just the beautiful BV7)

 5. Loewe Spheros or Connect: less cost than the cheapest option (BV8), but with integrated DVB-T AND  C AND S AND HDTV - tuner and recorder(!). Looks ok, build quality ok, ease of use very good, ok remote even. No integration with my existing B&O gear. Can't help but wondering why it seems to be so difficult for B&O to offer integrated digital tuners and hard disk when it seems be the standard for Loewe.

 6. Pioneer 40'' plasma, Topfield DVB-C(cable) HDRecorder + Linntronic. Experience, anyone - ease of use, integration...?

 

Thanks for help! 

 

 

1. If you want the best picture and a pretty cool design you should go for the Pioneer. The XD versions have digital outs, so it's easy to connect it to your BS4. The best looking 42" Pioneer is the 428XD (not the 4280 with the rounded speaker).

2. If you wan't a design tv for a good value, you should buy the Loewe Connect (really like the design of the white one).

3. The Beovision 7 with the 7.4 speaker is the best looking tv I've ever seen in my life. It has a good picture too, but like you said, it's maybe a bit overpriced.

I personally think you should choose between Plasma and LCD first, because thats a big difference in the picture. I you watch normal movies or photo's I should go for Plasma. If you like to watch films like Ice Age and play games on a PS3 or whatever, you should go for LCD. 

 Btw, Sony has launcht his first Oled screen and Panasonic and Pioneer launch their new (full HD) plasma screens in a few months, so you could also wait a few months to get the best...

 edit:
 

This is gonna be a new Pioneer. It's 9mm thick !!! That's WAF 😕

 

 

 

I would get an Avant 32 DVD as a stop gap. It would seem screen size is not paramount and this set offers as good a picture for the majority of your viewing as is possible. I would also see if you can't track down the STB-C for the MX7000 - any UK dealers have one? I think flat screen is still developing as are transmission standards and investing heavily at present is a risky business. Personally, I think an external decoder box has far more going for it than an internal one - what will we do when all broadcasts eventually become HD? The present internal DVB-T modules will in all probability be history. I prefer to change boxes rather than TVs.

My B&O Icons:

BeoCenter-9500.png BeoCenter-9500.png
Beoremote-Beo4.png Beoremote-Beo4.png
Beovox.png Beovox.png
Beovision-11.png Beovision-11.png
Beotime.png Beotime.png
Beosound-Stage.png Beosound-Stage.png
Beosound-Moment.png Beosound-Moment.png
Beosound-5.png Beosound-5.png
Beosound-2.png Beosound-2.png
Beoremote-One.png Beoremote-One.png
Beoplay-Portal.png Beoplay-Portal.png
Beoplay-Earset.png Beoplay-Earset.png
Beomaster.png Beomaster.png
Beolit.png Beolit.png
Beogram-400x.png Beogram-400x.png
Beocenter-2.png Beocenter-2.png
And on WAF, it would seem the usual problem is the size of the black screen. The depth is usually of little importance.

My B&O Icons:

BeoCenter-9500.png BeoCenter-9500.png
Beoremote-Beo4.png Beoremote-Beo4.png
Beovox.png Beovox.png
Beovision-11.png Beovision-11.png
Beotime.png Beotime.png
Beosound-Stage.png Beosound-Stage.png
Beosound-Moment.png Beosound-Moment.png
Beosound-5.png Beosound-5.png
Beosound-2.png Beosound-2.png
Beoremote-One.png Beoremote-One.png
Beoplay-Portal.png Beoplay-Portal.png
Beoplay-Earset.png Beoplay-Earset.png
Beomaster.png Beomaster.png
Beolit.png Beolit.png
Beogram-400x.png Beogram-400x.png
Beocenter-2.png Beocenter-2.png

If you prefer to stay with the B&O brand then I would suggest buying a second-hand Avant 32 RF DVD if you can find one. It sounds like the screen size would be just right for your living space and the picture quality is the best in its class. I recently bought a 7-40 with 7-2 speaker but its not a great TV and definitely does not offer value for money. Pioneer will give you the best picture quality and of course you will have full HD and lots of connection capabilities but it depends if you want to change brands as I said. Definitly plasma over LCD. Very difficult times at the moment buying a TV with B&O. I just don't think they are up to it. Both the BV9 and BV7 are extremely overpriced for technologies that change so quickly.

Simon.

Beobird:

1. If you want the best picture and a pretty cool design you should go for the Pioneer. The XD versions have digital outs, so it's easy to connect it to your BS4. The best looking 42" Pioneer is the 428XD (not the 4280 with the rounded speaker).

2. If you wan't a design tv for a good value, you should buy the Loewe Connect (really like the design of the white one).

3. The Beovision 7 with the 7.4 speaker is the best looking tv I've ever seen in my life. It has a good picture too, but like you said, it's maybe a bit overpriced.

I personally think you should choose between Plasma and LCD first, because thats a big difference in the picture. I you watch normal movies or photo's I should go for Plasma. If you like to watch films like Ice Age and play games on a PS3 or whatever, you should go for LCD. 

 Btw, Sony has launcht his first Oled screen and Panasonic and Pioneer launch their new (full HD) plasma screens in a few months, so you could also wait a few months to get the best...

 

 

the screen launched at CES dont move the game on much. Pioneer has a 1 in thick plasma(who cares) panasonic brought in 24fps- nothing to write home about there!

Oled for the short term- forget it. Sony have yet to make a decent tv anyway. realistically oled in pricing and qualkity terms is 3/4 years away

Surely these ultra thin screens don't hold the electronics that power them behind them, do they? I am guessing that there is an additional box of tricks that has to be hidden away somewhere.

Simon. 

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