Thanks KMA

Millemissen wrote:

Michael - you have some great points there

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

...........likewise I cannot understand how the artefacts 'solidsnake' accuratly describes cannot be seen by those with UK SKYHD. I focus on SKYHD as it's my primary source for viewing.

My Avant has been returned now. Waiting for the fixes and maybe MKII before ordering a new one.

Sorry to most ....I know SKYHD issue is UK but I'd expect other countries compressed HD source to be the same.

Anyway I hoping for Solidsnake's dealer and B&O to resolve those because I know the exact issues he is having and he deserves them to be rectified.

jbrown77 wrote:

...........likewise I cannot understand how the artefacts 'solidsnake' accuratly describes cannot be seen by those with UK SKYHD. I focus on SKYHD as it's my primary source for viewing.

 

My Avant has been returned now. Waiting for the fixes and maybe MKII before ordering a new one.

Sorry to most ....I know SKYHD issue is UK but I'd expect other countries compressed HD source to be the same.

Anyway I hoping for Solidsnake's dealer and B&O to resolve those because I know the exact issues he is having and he deserves them to be rectified.

Thanks jbrown77. I think it is important to note that this is not an issue with just SkyHD.  I use my Apple TV and Bluray from my PS4 a lot and the exact same issue is present.  In fact one of the worst and most obvious examples is the Star Trek (2009) Bluray.  If anyone one wants to see the problems clear as day, have a look at chapter 6 as it includes numerous examples one after another.  B&O have told me that they are looking at this as an example of the problem right now.  

Apologies for repeating myself from thread to thread but I don't want this problem to get blamed on Sky when it is clearly an issue with the image processing in the Avant that B&O need to address. 

It is also interesting to note that the dealers haven't received any of the second batch of Avants yet.  And reviewers like flatpanels hd have not received review units yet.  

Solidsnake wrote:

Thanks jbrown77. I think it is important to note that this is not an issue with just SkyHD.  

Have you considered using the Oppo Blu-ray player to handle the upscaling from the Apple TV/other sources, as a test? It might do a better job than the Avant and would transfer a 'native' 4K picture to the Avant. The Oppo's upscaling facility is regarded as the best in the business, so is likely to be far better than the Avant at handling this function.

Solidsnake wrote:

It is also interesting to note that the dealers haven't received any of the second batch of Avants yet.  And reviewers like flatpanels hd have not received review units yet.  

They are shipping now. My dealer told me this morning that they are installing the 'second batch' now. One is happening tomorrow, the other Saturday. Mine is due in the store tomorrow, although I still have the installation on hold.

Dealer also claims there's NOTHING on B&O's system about any (Sky) upscaling/motion issues! And these are issues reported by dealers for B&O to evaluate. So, unless you dealer reports it, it's not on B&O's system to fix.

He also added there's a minor software update which is imminent and a major software update planned for later this year with support for 4K 60Hz etc.

moxxey wrote:

Solidsnake wrote:

Thanks jbrown77. I think it is important to note that this is not an issue with just SkyHD.  

Have you considered using the Oppo Blu-ray player to handle the upscaling from the Apple TV/other sources, as a test? It might do a better job than the Avant and would transfer a 'native' 4K picture to the Avant. The Oppo's upscaling facility is regarded as the best in the business, so is likely to be far better than the Avant at handling this function.

Solidsnake wrote:

It is also interesting to note that the dealers haven't received any of the second batch of Avants yet.  And reviewers like flatpanels hd have not received review units yet.  

They are shipping now. My dealer told me this morning that they are installing the 'second batch' now. One is happening tomorrow, the other Saturday. Mine is due in the store tomorrow, although I still have the installation on hold.

Dealer also claims there's NOTHING on B&O's system about any (Sky) upscaling/motion issues! And these are issues reported by dealers for B&O to evaluate. So, unless you dealer reports it, it's not on B&O's system to fix.

He also added there's a minor software update which is imminent and a major software update planned for later this year with support for 4K 60Hz etc.

I'm reluctant to buy more hardware just to upscale.  Spending 9K on a TV is enough to expect it to do its job very well and not need something else to do the job for it.  I'll hang on another few weeks to see what fixes come.

Regarding the shipping situation.  I'm just going on what my dealer told me.  As of today, he has not received any of the new batch.  And flatpanelsHD told me that they still haven't received any review unit.

So I looked at the OPPO Moxxey, on your advice... including a conversation with the tech team on it. Came away impressed with the product and confident it would be an improvement over what the Avant gave me. Plus looked at STB bracket for it.

........but then I engaged brain and said to myself why should I have to buy a £500 extra for a £7k TV because it isn't performing its primary function properly.

......that was before the Avant went back and was fully refunded.  Nice little temporary £469 samsung 40" FHD bought to replace the Avant (without motion issues) :-)

Anyway OPPO goes on the agenda to try when I decide to order another Avant. Thanks for the tip Moxxey.

Solidsnake wrote:

Regarding the shipping situation.  I'm just going on what my dealer told me.  As of today, he has not received any of the new batch.  And flatpanelsHD told me that they still haven't received any review unit.

Definitely shipping. Mine is one of the first from the second batch and is due in to my dealer today. They are arranging another install from the new batch, too.

Now I have to decide whether to accept it or not. Dealer suggests I should give it a go, so tempted. Preliminary install now scheduled.

Michael wrote:

• Quick start for audio source (no screen to begin with) just audio. (Also making a "double" source (ie. AppleTV + AppleTV "Sound mode")

Here’s an idea.. 💡

Use the optical out from ATV to the spdif’s Avant, and configure the spdif to a music source. Now you have video from the hdmi-output, audio from optical output. Now you can avoid the extra P.MUTE -command, and SPEAKER - mode.

Unfortunately you need an extra convertor for optical to spdif, but there should be enough room in the back of the tv. And an extra ir-eye, for the music source of the ATV. That's because one ir-eye can only be configured to one source.