Thinking about waiting too.... I waited to replace my original BV avant DVD with a BV10 and don't regret it at all and have a place for the new avant but need it to be completely sorted and working I no longer have the time and commitment to give feedback to B&O in the past to develop a product as I once did. Love the new avant but waiting until the MK II 🙂

B&O have sorted out the challenge regarding the fog that developed on the inside of screen, and they are currently producing revised tv's and shipping them now. If you place an order now, expected delivery will be mid August.

There are still a few minor (?) sw glitches, but these will be sorted out and updated automatically - so there is no need to hold off the purchase anymore.

Not sure when the 85" and 75" will ship, but the rumours indicate August and September.

Roger

Roger wrote:

B&O have sorted out the challenge regarding the fog that developed on the inside of screen, and they are currently producing revised tv's and shipping them now. If you place an order now, expected delivery will be mid August.

There are still a few minor (?) sw glitches, but these will be sorted out and updated automatically - so there is no need to hold off the purchase anymore.

Not sure when the 85" and 75" will ship, but the rumours indicate August and September.

Roger

Thanks as always Roger for your very informed communications. May place an order sooner rather than later now 🙂

But I think the main issue is upscaling HD- and SD-sources to 4K, as reported in another thread. If this can't be sorted out by a software-update, early adopters of the Avant can finally throw this TV out of the window and had wasted a lot of money!

I'm still waiting for a review of the Avant on flatpanelsHD.com though...

Regards

Räuber

Raeuber wrote:

But I think the main issue is upscaling HD- and SD-sources to 4K, as reported in another thread. If this can't be sorted out by a software-update, early adopters of the Avant can finally throw this TV out of the window and had wasted a lot of money!

No, this can be sorted out via software as it's primarily how the software is controlling the upscaling. For instance, the Oppo Blu-ray player (which has an incoming HDMI port for upscaling other sources to 4K) currently does a better job than the Avant itself.

As I've mentioned before, when the BV7-40 MK3 1080P panel first shipped, anyone who was used to watching SD (in the UK, few HD channels existed at the MK3 launch) suddenly had the same affect Avant users are experiencing now: their upscaled SD content looked worse on the 1080P MK3, compared to the previous 720P MK2 model.

But, B&O solved this through software updates and, by the time the MK4 was released a year later, the upscaling and motion issues had pretty much been resolved and have been ever since.

The Avant upscaling will improve. Sadly I wasn't prepared to 'beta-test' the Avant and wait for these software updates. You know, I like the Avant, but I'm not in any desperate hurry to get it, simply to have an initial downgraded visual experience.

Raeuber wrote:

But I think the main issue is upscaling HD- and SD-sources to 4K, as reported in another thread. If this can't be sorted out by a software-update, early adopters of the Avant can finally throw this TV out of the window and had wasted a lot of money!

I'm still waiting for a review of the Avant on flatpanelsHD.com though...

Regards

Räuber

There are no known up scaling issues. I've had mine since mid-May and even SD content from the eighties is amazing based on the source material and screen size.

I am having an Hdcp issue between my Sky 895 box with screen flickering on startup.

@Räuber - moxxey is right!

You worry too much about that!!

I am more concerned, if the tuners are upgradable for the coming 'H.265 encoded DVB tv broadcast' in a couple of years.

MM

Millemissen wrote:

I am more concerned, if the tuners are upgradable for the coming 'H.265 encoded DVB tv broadcast' in a couple of years.

HEVC / H.265 won't be coming to the current version (Mk I) of Avant via software update. It requires a hardware update (Mk II?). This info is directly from B&O and not speculation based on what dealers say.

If a hardware upgrade will be provided for the current Avant, I reckon they'll have to at least replace the Video Engine board.

I wish B&O had taken a modular approach similar to Samsung (the Evolution Kit). Panels seem to be the longest lasting parts in TVs these days, in terms of evolving electronics.

That is to say that LCD is a pretty mature technology, and upgrades to panels themselves are quite marginal year on year, until the panel tech changes to something else (perhaps OLED).

Panels outlive the electronics that drive them. It sounds like this is especially the case with UHD. The pixels are there, in what appear to be top-of-the-line panels from each manufacturer, but the 4K codecs, standards & sources are in their infancy.

So those who want the latest of 4K in, say, 2-3 years, will either need to rely on external sources and processing or upgrade the TV set in quite short cycles.

Hence I wish the "motor" could be upgraded. The external BeoSystem 4 concept would work nicely in the changing world of UHD — and also reduce cable clutter & make installations easier. I think Samsung's on to something with their Evolution Kit...

Imagine how easy it would be to install Avant on the wall, if there were only one or two cables going to the TV and everything else could be connected to a hub. An upgradeable hub. Or if you could have one cable hidden inside the magical floor stand: the aestethics would be akin to what you see in B&O's promotional materials — no cables in sight.

If I decide to go for the Avant later this year, I'm doing so being prepared to upgrade it to a newer model in ~2 years.

Hi KMA,

I am not talking about a general support for H.265.

What I meant was the tuner - supposing that this is a seperate module as before.

Will it be possible to change that from the current in MPEG4-standart to a newer with H.265-support (as soon as it will be available) - just as it was before when the MPEG4-tuners arrived?

Or is the tuner in some way integrated in the 'engine' in the new BV's?

This - of cource - is only of interest to those, who use the built-in tuner - not for those who rely on an external tuner to watch tv!

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But in general I agree with you - I would also have wished for a more modular solution - with an outboard 'engine'. It makes things much easier too, especially if you have several devices connected.

But I do see, that most people just want the integrated solution - the all-in-one tv.

 

MM