Web based muic servcies on Mac to Beolab?

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Moment and Core only have Deezer integrated into the units but I'm interested in Primephonic, a music streaming service specilaising only in classical music. It does have a web browser that i can download to my Mac but how would i then stream the music to my Beolab 90s from my Mac please? i suppose this a general question that could apply to any web based app on a computer.

The next challenge would be how you could control the web app onn your computer whilst in another room to change tracks and search?

 

 

BL90 has both Airplay and Chromecast built in, right?

So Airplay from your mac should work, as I see it.

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Primephonic has an app so you should be able to Airplay or Chromecast from you rmobile.

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Hiort wrote:

BL90 has both Airplay and Chromecast built in, right?

So Airplay from your mac should work, as I see it.

No - but with a connected Core there is support for AP and CC.

The iOS app from Primephonic and of course the Mac has support for AP.

For me that would be ok - makes it very easy to handle with the Core in the chain as a prepro.

I fear this won’t be sufficient due to the missing support for the 24/96 version of the service.

(It seems very hard to find out whether a Mac can output 24/96 over AP from a webbrowser....I suppose not.

There is no native Primephonic app for Mac).

In that case maybe what seethroughyou asks for is some kind of USB card with e.g. SPDIF/COAX-out or a media player with USB-in........

....which however would require a cable to the 90’s and make it hard to manage from afar.

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

Checked the white paper for BL90 and no mention of Air Play. Air Play on iPhone and MacBook don’t recognise Beolab 90s and not visible.

It’s a shame there is no device like the Moment out there that can take all the streaming services and amalgamate with your NAS music. Deezer and Qobuz.

Roon on MacBook is good at sorting music (not perfect) but it’s not great for building a mood selection like MOTS or Pattern Play.

Perhaps I should get the Moment and just buy more downloads from Prestoclassical etc...

Millemissen wrote:

Hiort wrote:

BL90 has both Airplay and Chromecast built in, right?

So Airplay from your mac should work, as I see it.

No - but with a connected Core there is support for AP and CC.

The iOS app from Primephonic and of course the Mac has support for AP.

For me that would be ok - makes it very easy to handle with the Core in the chain as a prepro.

I fear this won’t be sufficient due to the missing support for the 24/96 version of the service.

(It seems very hard to find out whether a Mac can output 24/96 over AP from a webbrowser....I suppose not.

There is no native Primephonic app for Mac).

In that case maybe what seethroughyou asks for is some kind of USB card with e.g. SPDIF/COAX-out or a media player with USB-in........

....which however would require a cable to the 90’s and make it hard to manage from afar.

MM

MM, To your point, it "appears" my MacBook Air can output high resolution files either through lightning connector or headphone jack at full resolution. First pic shows Audio Midi Setup app and looking at drop down menu for audio output. Second pic shows receiving Neil Young Archives site at full resolution but Airplay 2 output of this site limited to CD level.

I think that confirms your conclusion. The advantage of the high resolution sites would be that NYA, Primephonic, and others are possibly sending a better file to the computer (or device?) than other services. If that is true, should the Airplay stream be better on high resolution file because of that? Either way, I can't imagine the top line speakers were designed around a 320 streamed file. 

poodleboy wrote:

MM, To your point, it "appears" my MacBook Air can output high resolution files either through lightning connector or headphone jack at full resolution. 

I am quite sure that you mean: the ‘USB’ (not the Lightning) connector.

And you are right - the headphone-out doubles as an optical/digital connector.

Both can be used for outputting higher resolution audio - no problem there.

But they would require an outboard DAC (such as in the 50/90’s).

And since both solutions - opposite to AirPlay - also will require a cable, they fall in the category of, what I called ‘hard to manage from afar’.

 

Note: there are lots of sw players for the Mac, that can be remotely controlled (Audirvana/A+ Remote as one of these).

However, I am not aware, that any of these would include sound from a web-based player like Primephonic.

 

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

I don't understand.  Wouldn't someone owning a Mac just buy a used AirPort Express (discontinued, 802.11n 2nd gen) and AirPlay to its (dual-purpose, 3.5mm) optical output?  Only if higher bit depth or sampling frequency than 16/44.1 are required would one need to hard-cable the Mac to the speaker.  [Edit: Yes, Platinum level claims to be 24-bit FLAC streaming.  But as they say, "If an album is available in 24-bit, that’s what you get."  Which means just about none of it, since relatively little new classical is being recorded -- compared to the archive catalog, most of which will be rips of 16/44.1 CDs.]

How would you control the Primephonic app running on the MacBook in the study, whilst sat in the living room on the sofa?

seethroughyou wrote:
How would you control the Primephonic app running on the MacBook in the study, whilst sat in the living room on the sofa?

....take it with you - AirPlay is wireless 🙂

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

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