Hi
I Wonder if there is any possibility to Connect a turntable to a multiroom setup consisting of Beoplay A9, M5 and M3?
I have seen this article:
Hi
I Wonder if there is any possibility to Connect a turntable to a multiroom setup consisting of Beoplay A9, M5 and M3?
I have seen this article:
Location: Brittany - France
My B&O Icons:
Hi and welcome on Beoworld.
Actually that is pretty easy.....if you just want the sound of the TT playing through your B&O device - and your B&O multiroom setup.
Just connect the output of the TT to the line in connection of one if the devices.
But do remember, that the TT has to have a RIIA amp built-in or connected to the output.
Where it gets tricky is, when you want to control the playback of the TT (start/stop etc).
Then you need the ‘converter, which is hidden behind the cabinet’, that the author of the linked article mentioned.
And you need a suited B&O turntable plus a compatible AudioMaster (like the BeoSystem 6500/7000 in the pictures) along with a good homenetwork, that includes wired connection to the ‘converter’.
This ‘converter’ is called NL/ML Converter - it is rather expensive. Although now not offered anymore from B&O, you can get it used.
So.....it’ts up to you - if you just want sound from the TT and want to be able to listen to it on every device, it is a fairly straight forward procedure.
Also have a look here:
Location: Flensborg————Danmark
I'd like to find a simple and not expensive way to connect an analog system to my network too, in my case a beomaster 1001/Beogram 3000.
But analog audio to airplay seems to be a difficult device to find.
Location: Paris France
Bonjour Matador43 - Do you mean integrating your legacy B&O products in a NL Multiroom setup?
Location: Brittany - France
My B&O Icons:
Bonjour Matador43 - Do you mean integrating your legacy B&O products in a NL Multiroom setup?
Bonjour Mbolo ! I have no NL or ML network. Just an standard Wifi which distribute audio to airplay receivers connected to B&O devices.
So what I would like is some sort of "Airplay In" to add Old B&O stuff to it (like beogram or reel to reel deck).
Location: Paris France
Hi
Thanks for the answer! I didn't have a clue that it was so easy. Didn't even try that at all, since i thought it at least needed some kind of product so send signals to the other speakers.
Im looking to find a Beogram 4000/4002.
There is one for sale in the area. A 4002 Vintage teak With a MMC 20 S pickup. It's supposed to work but says its a slow startet. Priced around 350£
Is there any particular RIAA that is recommended for a Beogram TT?
Only one way, which requires a spare (old) Mac: Connect your analog source to its mic/input port and run a Rogue Amoeba product like Airfoil or Loopback to send the output to System Out, which you can connect to any AirPlay speaker. Change AirPlay destinations either in person or by Screen Sharing.So what I would like is some sort of "Airplay In" to add Old B&O stuff to it (like beogram or reel to reel deck).
It has been pointed out that instead of doing this, one might as well digitize the source record or tape and add it to the iTunes (or whatever) music library and then use "the usual method" to play to the AirPlay speakers. Now that particular source item is archived, ready for the next time you want to hear it! ...Which misses the point of playing with the antique toys and thumbing thru the old physical archive... but if the goal is to actually listen to the music...
[Edit: Rogue Amoeba's "LineIn" app was free and does exactly & only audio pass-thru, but works only on older Mac OS. That's perfect. You might pay for AirFoil instead, just in order to control the output destination from an iDevice rather than the Mac screen. A free method for newer Macs would be to set up GarageBand for a single real instrument, choosing whichever input including USB, then turn monitoring on (w/feedback control, if your TT is near the speakers.]
[Edit 2: Which implies another method: Run GarageBand permanently on an old iOS device instead of a Mac! But then you need an RIAA preamp with USB output like Parasound Zphono-USB, or again with the low-end pro audio devices for their ADC -- plus the Apple USB camera support cable for the iDevice. Note I have not tried this, so monitoring to AirPlay would have to be tested, because AirPlay (1) vs. AirPlay 2 might be problematic to select as the iOS audio output, when inside of GarageBand.]
Hi Trackbeo,,
Thank you for that extensive answer.
About Airfoil: I've heard about that solution but i find it not really convenient. Its like starting 5 devices just to 1 function. And even a old mac mini for just that purpose is a to of space and energy. I've also heard about little arduino's (or raspberry, I never know which is which!) based solution, but nothing as convenient as an airport express…
About digitizing… In fact the very little collection of records I own already exists in digital version. The purpose is more a "demo-proof-of-concept" just for the pleasure of knowing everything is connected. And also maybe to enjoy the Beocord 1200 everywhere in the house.
To me its the same mystery that the lack of simple B&O light control. Why does this type of device not exists? Maybe patents about airplay?
Location: Paris France
I think that's it: Apple licensed AirPlay (1) *output* devices and now licenses AirPlay 2 output devices, but the source of the sound is always an Apple device. No doubt the reason is to collect the revenues from their own music services, or if not, then at least from selling their own devices as the source. Worse, I am expecting at some point Apple will terminate support for AirPlay (1) speakers, because their key was cracked by Jon Lech Johansen, allowing various non-licensed output devices, including a Linux library, so (for now) a Raspberry Pi can substitute for the discontinued AirPort Express.Why does this type of device not exists? Maybe patents about airplay?
Note my [Edit 2] above was late, so perhaps you didn't see it: An iOS device will certainly use less energy than an old Mac. Alas, running GarageBand on it definitely doesn't meet your "cleanliness" requirement!
Personally, I have given up and run my B&O turntable only on the B&O system in the same room. If you won't or can't use B&O's multi-room features, Sonos line-in works second-best (with some delay), and the multi-AirPlay method (which I use because of Sonos update fascism), is just a runner-up.
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