To BS3 or not BS3, that is the question!

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OK Here's my situation and any that can help would be appreciated.  I'm in the US and have the following equipment, and I'm trying to build my surround setup.  I have 2 sets of wall-mounted BL 6000s and am working on getting a pair of 4000s for the center channel and a BL2 when I can afford it too.  I have a BC 9500 that I currently only have powering the front BL 6000s of course.


I have a new Samsung LED TV, which I don't plan on replacing, as it is brand-spanking new, and very nice.  I'm also keeping the BC9500 no matter what I do and will feed the audio-out from the BC9500 to whatever receiver I get.

I recently procured a used Beosystem 1 locally but it was damaged during shipment and isn't working.  I have tried hooking it up to several computer screens, projectors, and two TVs and can't get the service menu to come on even.  Plus, it is really a beast of a machine anyway and I don't need it for video switching as my TV has better video inputs.  Mainly was going to use it to process multi-channel surround and hook up my TV audio out to it.

My question then (if I can't get this beast up and running) is if it is worth the $7800 US to spend on a BS3 when I don't have a B&O panel.  I've read all the posts about it and it seems most would suggest that it isn't worth it.  I know I can get a receiver with pre-outs that would work but there will be some clicking on and off of the surround channels at times when they don't get enough of a signal? 

To summarize:

 

1)  Is the BS3 worth it when you don't have a B&O panel?  And would it be hard to get up working due to compatibility, etc?

2)  If I get a receiver with pre-outs, any recommendations?

3)  Any solution (not including modifying my equipment electrically) to the clicking on and off of the speakers with non B&O equipment, and how annoying is it?

 

 

THANKS ALL and HAPPY HOLIDAYS!

Or if no one has an answer I will take donations of your unwanted BS3!  😁

Since you plan on keeping your BC9500 no matter what and since you are already more than half way to a full B&O surround I would suggest you buy the BS3 given that it will work with your Samsung monitor.

This is the only way you will get a nearly trouble free integration with both your audio and video setup being able to use your speakers without a lot of work around that will never fully work.

If you buy the BS3 all you would need is the MCL/ML converter and your BC9500 and BS3 would be fully integrated.

In your position I would buy the BS3 no doubt.

/Lars

Thanks Lars!  After reading all of the posts it does look like trying to integrate everything will result in a pile of cables and more remotes.  I like Apple products with their simplicity and it sounds like I should just head that direction with a (almost) full B&O setup.

By the way, I think it is actually a Beolink converter that would integrate the two together.  Aux and powerlink from BC9500 in to the Beolink converter and masterlink cable connecting the Beolink converter and BC3.

 

 

I get the same impression from reading all the other post. Spending that extra money up front will save you a lot of trouble in the long run.

You are absolutely right about the converter.

Good luck with project and happy holidays.

/Lars

I know you said you're happy with the Samsung but, if you're happy to spend that amount of cash, wouldn't replacing it with a BV8 or even a BV10, and integrate your system that way, make more sense?

All that money for a set of masterlink and powerlink sockets seems expensive for audio switching only (and it still can't decode HD audio internally) - if you do buy the BS3 can you then turn off the picture processing of the Samsung and use it instead? - it doesn't seem likely.

Puncher wrote:

I know you said you're happy with the Samsung but, if you're happy to spend that amount of cash, wouldn't replacing it with a BV8 or even a BV10, and integrate your system that way, make more sense?

All that money for a set of masterlink and powerlink sockets seems expensive for audio switching only (and it still can't decode HD audio internally) - if you do buy the BS3 can you then turn off the picture processing of the Samsung and use it instead? - it doesn't seem likely.

Good point and good alternatives – though the Samsung may be a lot bigger 40”.

To the best of my knowledge most Samsung will do pixel mapping when connected through vga, hdmi or dvi.

/Lars

 

 

 

 

 

Puncher,

I actually got the Samsung 7000 series LED 55" for $1900 US which is an incredible deal, and that included tax and everything.  I would of course lose the color management but to be honest the audio is more important to me as the Samsung picture is really good.  Plus, it is impossibly thin.  Don't get me wrong I'd trade it for a B&O but I'm also 2000 miles from the nearest B&O dealer!

 

I'd want to check in to the BS3 combination with the Samsung before buying the BS3 of course.

macjonny1 wrote:

Puncher,

I actually got the Samsung 7000 series LED 55" for $1900 US which is an incredible deal, and that included tax and everything.  I would of course lose the color management but to be honest the audio is more important to me as the Samsung picture is really good.  Plus, it is impossibly thin.  Don't get me wrong I'd trade it for a B&O but I'm also 2000 miles from the nearest B&O dealer!

 

I'd want to check in to the BS3 combination with the Samsung before buying the BS3 of course.

So where do you live Alaska?  That's the only place I can think of two thousand miles from a dealer in the US.  May be there is a dealer in Russia that would be closer?  :-)

Also any time you hook up a B&O processor to another manufactures TV you end up with a processor processing video and feeding it to another TV's processor.  Even if you have HDMI inputs you may not get a proper full screen image.  With the Beosystem 1 you would have had video image issues for sure.  I imagine some one shipped you a BS 1 by UPS which probably broke a board or connection in the chassis which is very fragile.   That processor needs to ship very carefully.  

Thanks Expoman....Actually it is about 1000 miles I live in Washington. 

Yes they did ship UPS and you are probably right.


I was looking at the Samsung Manual and noticed there is a section on "setting up your TV to be a computer screen."  I'm wondering if this is how one could set up the TV to not do it's own adjustments.  Here's a quote from the section:

"Auto Adjustment
Use the Auto Adjust function to have the TV automatically adjust the video signals it receives.
The function also automatically fine-tunes the settings and adjusts the frequency values and
positions."

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