The puzzle with the Options

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Thanks for the diagram and explanation - all is much clearer now 🙂

Looking at option settings for the 'Home' system first:

  • BM5/BS5 should be on A.OPT 1 (this should auto configure)
  • All five BL3500s should be in L.OPT 6 (including the one in the Townhouse)
  • The BV8-32 in the townhouse should be in V.OPT 1 (assuming that it has no connections to either ML system)

Looking at option settings for the 'Townhouse' system:

  • BS4 should be in A.OPT 0 (this should auto configure, because no speakers are connected to the BS4's Powerlink sockets)
  • BV8-40 should be in V.OPT 2 (so that it processes IR commands for both video and audio)
  • The BL3500s should be in L.OPT 6*
  • The Passive should be in L.OPT 6*

* However, as previously mentioned the Townhouse BL3500s and Passive, are designed to be used in separate link rooms.  Although they may work (switch on, change source and adjust volume), the ML system is not designed to receive the same IR command from a number of sources at once, and this may cause conflicts.

A better solution would be to get rid of the 2 BL2000s in the townhouse, and connect the Passive direct to once of the BV8-40's Powerlink outputs (PL to PL cable required).  You could then connect a further Passive and speakers to the BV8-40 for a fuller surround experience.

Furthermore, with the system as it is, how do you know which ML system you are controlling when in the townhouse?  Surely when you select a source both the Townhouse and Home systems turn on?  Is this not a problem?  There is probably a way to solve this latter conflict, but I will wait to hear whether it is indeed a problem.  I just re-read one of your earlier posts - you have said that the BL3500 from the main system is in L.OPT 0.

Lastly, I think there may be a way to combine both ML systems (because you can turn OFF the audiomaster function in the BS5) but again I am not sure about this!  Have you tried?  

 

 

 

 

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Thinking more about the 'Home' system BL3500 that is in the Townhouse, currently in L.OPT 0.  You could try setting this in L.OPT 4.  Then, in order to control it you would simply press LINK on the Beo4 first. You would have to add LINK to the Beo4's LIST options.

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Today I will make the changes in Options as mentioned. Afterwards I will report how I have made progress.

 

And a picture to picture all this:

 

The hole in the ceiling is from one of the speakers connected to the hidden Passive.

Update:

There is sound @ Passive only if I first switch to radio and then change to A.Aux. The Beo 4 is not able to switch BS4 into A.Aux mode (A.Aux added in Beo4). Something similar is in the house, if I want to play the Chrome Cast audio I have to switch on the BL3500 in radio and then change at the BM5 to A.Aux.

I think it is something linked to L. Opt 6.

Audio works as I mentioned but there is a delay. The Bv is first and the rest follows at a fraction of a second. 

 

In this configuration it is likely to be possible (with the HMDI matrix) to have all around sound with both BV's switched on and playing f.i. Apple TV or Chrome Cast Video.

I thouhgt the mailman to be delivering at wednesday or at least today but it will be tomorrow. Maybe the HDMI extractor works better then the temporary solution now.

some remarks:

you can not distribute audio from BV8 HDMI sources through ML.

with 2 BL2000, 1 BL3500, 1 BS4 and 2 BV8 you will never get the option settings right. Simply to much devices in one room. 

The option, but still with restrictions, I would propose:

BS4 option 1 with ML connected  BV8 in option 1, the other in option 4

BL3500 in option 4, the other two in option 0 (if possible; receive no IR commands; but partly manual to be operated)

A,Aux not working as expected is no L.Opt 6 issue.

Carolpa wrote:

some remarks:

you can not distribute audio from BV8 HDMI sources through ML.

with 2 BL2000, 1 BL3500, 1 BS4 and 2 BV8 you will never get the option settings right. Simply to much devices in one room. 

The option, but still with restrictions, I would propose:

BS4 option 1 with ML connected  BV8 in option 1, the other in option 4

BL3500 in option 4, the other two in option 0 (if possible; receive no IR commands; but partly manual to be operated)

A,Aux not working as expected is no L.Opt 6 issue.

I agree with most of that, and said as much earlier. 

Why put the BS4 in A.OPT 1 when it has no speakers connected?  Surely it will auto-configure itself to A.OPT 0 anyway - that's what it says in the manual.

 

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Guy wrote:
Why put the BS4 in A.OPT 1 when it has no speakers connected? 
your absolutely right! I missed that.

So BS4 option 0 and ML connected BV8 option 2.

Goodmorning,

Before anything, I would like to make some apologies for my bad use of the English language, I am Dutch! So grammar and build of sentence are probably way off what it should be. So again,

As montioned this puzzle of Options isn't a 1,2,3 solution. That's why I turned to this medium, because of the huge amount of know how. And even then there is more then one opinion about the interpretation of Options. As I read the documents it became more and more spagetti in stead of clear.

With your help i make some progress in understanding the meaning of the Options itself, and maybe in the future I wil find out use of them in several odd situations. And to be honest, the drawings with suggested set-ups aren't helping beacause they don't even come close to my mess.

 

Status: BS4 in A. Opt 0, connected to ML, connected to HDMI audio extractor (A.Aux) --> works

BV8 with ML, V. Opt 2, connected to ML, connected to 4x2 HDMI matrix and through HDMI audioaxtractor sound via A. Aux (with some delay) Connections set to DVD for ATV-4 -->works

BL2000 1,2, L. Opt 6, connected to ML, operates on commands like RADIO, DVD (ATV-4), Volume and is also manually operated on last soundsource

-->works

Passive with ML is set to L.Opt 6 (L.Opt 4 is to be investigated) --> works

BV8-32 is set to V.Opt 4 and I'm not sure if that is the final solution --> in progress

 

In the near future I will investigate the possibility to add the home ML string to the townhouse ML string. For now it is a solution that works moderate to good.

The possibility mentioned to connect the Passive with a PL cable is also under investigation. As soon as the man who crimps the connectors to the cables visits my home I will ask him to lend me a Pl cable to try this.

 

Questions:

For instance, how is the Passive switched on as it is not connected to ML? And in what option do I need to set the Passive?

Good morning - sounds like you are making good progress with the options settings and the system is starting to behave the way you want it!

With reference to the delay in the audio extractor, there will or course be some processing time for the Digital to Analogue conversion, and perhaps you are just a bit unlucky that this does not match the 'video production' processing time for your TV.  I use the following audio extractor with my ATV4 and BV6-26 and have not experienced delay:

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Update:

 

The simple Audio extractor is changed (mailman delivered) and, what a coincidence, I used the same as Guy recommends. The audio delay is indeed gone.

I also used synchronise from the Apple TV menu, now it is spot on.

As soon as I can get my hands on a PL cable I will try the suggested connection to the Passive.

 

Have a nice weekend!

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