The puzzle with the Options

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Dear all,

 

I did read a lot of comments about the Options but I still have no solution for my specific problem. Some links aren't working anymore so I dare to ask this question:

I use: BS4, BV8-40+Apple TV4 and a Passive (1656)

In V opt 1 and A opt1 OR V opt 2 and A opt 2 the BV8 plays the Apple TV sound and the A.mem sound and here is the strange part the Passive plays A.mem audio but no DVD audio (BV8 is in DVD connected with Apple TV) Passive is set in L-opt 6

What am I missing? Or how stupid am I that this simple setup isn't working the way I want it?

 

Kind regards, Sibrand.

 

 

Are the BS4 and the BV8 in the same room?

Do you have speakers connected to the BS4?

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In anticipation of answers Yes and No (respectively) to my questions above, I thought I'd go further with my response:

You should put the TV in V.OPT 2 (so it responds to both audio and video commands)

The BS4 should be in A.OPT 0 (so it does not respond to any IR commands - it should default to this setting if no speakers are connected, and receive all IR commands over ML via the TV)

And finally, if the TV is receiving ATV through hdmi only, then this digital source will not be distributed over masterlink.  You may wish to look for an hdmi audio extractor to enable an analogue audio input from the ATV that can be distributed.

I hope this helps - welcome to Beoworld! 🙂

 

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Thanks for your reply. They are in the same room.

Do you mean by speakers, something connected with PL or something like Beolab2000?

 

My set up for the audio is with Beolab2000's and the Passive through ML.

 

The BV worked with the previous owner with a Beosound 2500 and a converter (I think a 1611 or a 1615(Mk2)) is that what you mean by the audioextractor?

 

The setup I tried to make is to get audio from the BV8 and the Passive (as some sort of surround idea).

 

I realise it must be frustrating for the real Bang and Olufsen adepts to see me struggle with the terminology. So I am sorry in advance.

 

2 years ago I bought this house and the previous owner left the Beosound5 and Beomaster, the Beolab's 3500 and several feet of ML cable. In my enthousiasme I thought to connect a few extra components ...

I already found out that I can not connect a Beosound 5 and a Beosound 4 in the same ML string. So I made a second string. The old one is still working, now the second one.

Sibrand wrote:

Do you mean by speakers, something connected with PL or something like Beolab2000?

My set up for the audio is with Beolab2000's and the Passive through ML.

I meant something connected with PL.  Beolab 2000 is a LINK speaker, designed to be used in other rooms (away from the audio/video master).  Where do you have it?

Also, where is the passive, and what is connected to it?  A sketch of your full system may help!

Sibrand wrote:
The BV worked with the previous owner with a Beosound 2500 and a converter (I think a 1611 or a 1615(Mk2)) is that what you mean by the audioextractor?

No.  An audio extractor is not B&O-specific.  It's simply a small 'in-line' device with hdmi input and output, and an additional output (phono or 3.5mm sockets) that has extracted analogue audio from the digital hdmi signal.  You would need something like this if you wanted to send audio from your Apple TV over the ML system.

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There's a 52 page document called the Masterlink handbook that is well worth reading if you want to build your own ML system - it would answer all your questions.

If you join as a Silver Member you could download a copy from the site.  Otherwise, have a search on google.  You are looking for the Masterlink manual from January 2004, not the much larger/newer 'Beolink' one (which may cause confusion as it introduces newer beolink systems). 

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Hello Guy, again a big thank you, the answers are much appreciated.

 

I will make a sketch and will try to upload it here in this thread.

For the picture:

 

BS4, BV-8, 2 BL2000's and the Passive are all in the same room (outside of my house there is a little townhouse). With the options mentioned I can make the noise I want. Only the Apple TV is apparently a dissonant. I found a HDMI to HDMI+audio device. 

To make some confusion: Also in the same room is a BL3500 connected to the second ML cable that routes to my house. I put that in L option 0, operation by hand if link audio from the house is required.

I already have the Masterlink Handbook, but it is in Bang and Olufsen English (if one's new in the scene all terminology like Powerlink, Masterlink, Beolink, and so on is like reading hocus-pocus. And because I would like to be able to use the room this week I turned to this forum and it helped me (you helped me).

Thanks again and have a nice evening.

Sketch follows soon.

Sibrand wrote:
BS4, BV-8, 2 BL2000's and the Passive are all in the same room

Just a caution: If these are in the same room they are all receiving the same IR signal at the same time, and this may cause a conflict on the ML network.  Ideally, in any one room, you only want one receiver (device) for audio IR signals, and one receiver (device) for video IR signals (or just one device receiving both audio and video IR).  Hence the requirement to use option settings.

And of course the BL2000s are not designed to be used as speakers in the same room as the source - they are designed for link rooms.

I look forward to seeing a diagram and knowing exactly what you want from the 'townhouse' system!

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Sketch in Excel, click to see the whole picture

I have some difficulties uploading a picture. The site is having difficulties with hackers, it says.

 

An answer to Guy's question:

In the townhouse I would like to hear music, or sound, all around. I am aware that It is not real surround but it gives a feeling being surrounded by sound.

We use the townhouse as mancave, cooking for elderly neighbours, meetings and  extra classes to gain advantage at school for yougsters.

And to be honest, if Max Verstappen is racing we cranck up the volume for a "near life" experience.

 

 

 

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