One of the few alternatives with integrated motorised stands.

Graham

What's the provenance of the sets? The company was taken over by a Chinese company a while back. Is the product Chinese and German branded? I'm totally aware that the V1 was from the land of the Skoda but being " Danishish " was appealing. 

Pros: Premium TV in a price range the customer is willing to pay the extra money against a "standard television"

e.g. Bild7:  55"OLED, HDR, Sourround processor inbuild, really good sound, motorized stand, stable software, +/- 6000€

Nice Gadgets like "fast channel switching" as  in the good old days and with the Loewe App you can stream your TV channels to your I-pad

Cons: No PUC. no BR One, no NetLink with B&O, but you can connect it within the Loewe Range (so more or less the same).

For that kind of money, you even don't get a BV14-40" with standard fret. And the Horizon as the only cheaper alternative tv can't control motorized stands (in my eyes the biggest mistake B&O made), and has less good sound than the V1.

Simonbeo wrote:

What's the provenance of the sets? The company was taken over by a Chinese company a while back. Is the product Chinese and German branded? I'm totally aware that the V1 was from the land of the Skoda but being " Danishish " was appealing.

Beo Century ,Beoplay V1, Beocenter 6, Ex-Beolit 12, Beotime , A8 , MX 5500 . Beolit 15 , Form 2i , Beolab 2000, Beoplay A3.

Millemissen wrote:

Before the hype is getting unstoppable, I'd like to know what are the pros and cons of having a Loewe tv?

Okay, this was clearly not my intention to start any hype about Loewe.  I was very careful to phrase Loewe as an alternative, or an addition - not a replacement for B&O you should have in your home, right now, because B&O is rubbish...  B&O is not rubbish, and B&O can offer things Loewe cannot. For a price, yes, but they're there.

Rather than just pop a Loewe banner on here, and let you all scratch your heads wondering why - I took a whole afternoon to write up exactly what was happening, and how I'd come to that point. I did it out of respect for you guys, not to start a 'war of brands'.

I'm a B&O fan, I always will be.  I'd be a homeless B&O fan if I blindly carried on like this, though - so things had to change. I'm sorry if this offends anyone, but my family, my staff and my future come first. You'd do exactly the same.

I'll be having the technical training shortly, and I can assure you the instructor will be sick of me asking questions by the end of it. I will find out everything - and make informed, impartial decisions - and share them with you if you like!  

As for Loewe being Chinese, I'm not sure about that?  As far as I'm aware it's a German company, owned by Germans. The OLED panels are LG (as B&O will be using in the Eclipse) and the sets are assembled at the Loewe factory, in Germany.  I'll be asking the question though, don't worry.

B&O Loudspeakers can be connected, easily. B&O Loudspeakers are superb - and Loewe will, I'm sure, freely admit they're nowhere near Bang & Olufsen in the Loudspeaker department.  As B&O place less emphasis on TV's, Loewe place more emphasis.  As B&O place more emphasis on Loudspeakers, Loewe are happy to carry on as they are - with lower end solutions on the whole.  I can't see the brands going head-to-head, I simply see them as a compliment to each other when a customer has a BV7 with BL8000/6000/BL2 and can't afford to upgrade to a BV14, Horizon, or Eclipse.  He/She can keep the speakers, enjoy fantastic B&O sound - and have a modern TV with the latest specs.

So, finally, and once again I will say - I am not 'leaving B&O' and I will continue to deal in pre-owned, but (through no fault of my own, and no lack of trying) the numbers will be down.  I'll always be here, I'll always love the brand, and if I'm ever welcome again in Struer after this, I'll continue to do reviews and engage with some wonderful people I've had the pleasure to meet in Denmark.

Lee

Pros:

Bild 5 OLED 55" with its soundbar and stand at 4.000 EUR vs Horizon 48" outdated panel & buggy software at 4.800 EUR

Cons:

BeoRemote One is 10x more beautiful :), if multiroom would work then it is great to have B&O integration, I still prefer Horizon's design compared any other TV set I've seen (even if I like Bild 5 OLED very, very much)

In other words, Loewe for me is a compromise I am willing to make since B&O is obviously taking their customers for granted with overpriced yet s****y products lately.