The Beosound Moment introduced...what are your experiences?

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To start off as our famous dutch footballcoach probably would say. “To fall with the door into the house”: I’m gutted, disappointed and a frustrated feeling grows. And that’s  the first time ever with a release of a B&O product.

Yesterday I’ve had the opportunity to play with the Moment for about 1,5 hour.

The dealer’s Moment was fully functional with the Nas with it’s own library and the Deezer account (of course)

What I expected and was hoping for the past weeks, was a device where streaming services and your own content comes together in just 1 device and topped of with a superior sound quality and smooth control.

But just after a few minutes the enthousiasm slowly faded away and was replaced by a disappointed feeling.

It started with a positive feeling as (as example) I’ve been told that  you only have to enter the artist’s name, and the Moment starts searching through your own content and after that the online Deezer services and decides which is the better one and starts playing. But that’s where it already went wrong.

The search of an artist can only be done by entering his/her first character. Just only the first! After that you have to swipe through the whole collection starting with that character. So searching for lets say “Mumfords & Sons”? You have to start off with  “Madonna” and  you have to swipe all the way to the right…

Next thing. Trying to start a radiostation. First you need to create a collection of favourite stations via your account. But then you only have the choice of your most used and created/choosen ones. But with Netradio at the moment with over  100.000+ stations and you want to search for a specific station?

Then there isn’t also an option to search or browse through the different stations by entering it’s name. Only the option to search by genre. But then again, it needs a lot of time to find your wanted one.

Next was the playlist options. The songs within the playlist at the first screen can be played by touching them. But the problem is, that it takes a lot of time to start that specifc song, because it has to be found somewhere.  And during that amount of time, there isn’t any confirmation that you have touched that song.  Only a very small blinking of the “playlist”album notifies you, which can easily be missed. During that time and the fact that you have to touch very  tiny small characters, you start to doubt whether you’ve touched it properly. The song isn’t highlighted as it does in the second screen. But that second screen gives far less overview of the songs in the choosen playlist.

And if you start to doubt wheter you’ve touched it properly, and you touch it again, the screen responds with the slightest form of a shivering finger (as the characters are that small and has to be touched very precisely) with swiping to the left or right. Sometimes the screen doesn’t even react or has a very late response.

 

In other words, I can’t take this with me at home. If I would introduce this to my familiy and  for instance my spous wants to starts a specific album, she would struggle to find it. And I can imagine her reaction and expression on her face already. She will ask if I lost my marbles when I bought this product.

 

With all the added features in the Moment, like it’s “Moodsensing” and it’s enormeous collection of Music created by the combination of your own content and streamingservices, they totally forgot to think about where it’s all about with B&O.

 The basics, just the ease of use. I think B&O concentrated to much by willing to release a different concept and overlooked the first simple (searching) basics. In my opinion, all the added functionality has to be an added feature and not the main thing to struggle  through.

How is B&O going to survive if it starts releasing products that needs an introduction video before you can use it?

 

 

 

Location: Utrecht

Quite a challenge to achieve "Less is More" while having the Beovirus.

Thanks for a very good insight!

Beobuddy wrote:
and the Moment starts searching through your own content and after that the online Deezer services and decides which is the better one and starts playing.

You mean you're not in full control yourself ? 😉

Until now the only thing that scares me off are the two additional services, I mean that this device will cost you extra money each year. Now only for Deezer but what as TuneIn also demands money in the future, then it becomes an expensive annual joke. Terrestrial radio is still free but not possible with the Moment.

I had a play with the Moment this week.

It is much smaller than I had anticipated and the physical form is much better in real world than it is from the photographs.

I share a similar view on the Moment to BB above:-

1. It is an unfinished product. It is so far behind schedule, B&O had to release it currently is.

2. Searching:- Artist search to come 2-3 updates later (after Multi-room). Otherwise, I found the BSMo very frustrating to use in search mode. With 35 million songs available on Deezer (I assume your own content will be in the 35m), it is like a very large random song player. i.e. I did not readily find an album I wanted to listen to. So I want to find Dark side of the Moon. Finding Pink was very difficult never mind Pink Floyd.  So in essence, the search function to be anything like 5% of the Beosound 5, it needs a monumental programming effort IMHO

3. Integration with legacy B&O products. ML is gone, Need a further £600 ML/NL box if you don't have a BV11/Avant Smart TV. BSMo becomes audio Master, other products (BS5, BS9000) become Option 6 Slaves.

4. The BSMo does not incorporate other B&O controls. Thus you will need the BSMo tablet and you will need the BeoR1 if you want to sit down a flick between audio and video. Thus the total integration package B&O is renowned for, is questionable from a control perspective.

5. Highly likely other wood finishes are in the pipeline.

 

Overall, I like the concept but it appears to be such an unfinished product, with the incorrect focus on Multi-Room. In my opinion, the basic search functions need drastic upgrading (BS5 on steroids), followed by BV TV/Audio Master control issue needs fixing ASAP, then Multi-Room.

 

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Can you use the beoremote app to search ?

Chris wrote:

You mean you're not in full control yourself ? 😉

As I've been told, the Moment judges the quality (probably bitrate/depth) , so no is the answer. You could mislead the system by renaming or adding some info in the id-tag.

The thought however behind this is to simplify searching. You don't have to think about the location where your searched artist is stored. It's one step less to think about.

Location: Utrecht

Quite a challenge to achieve "Less is More" while having the Beovirus.

Chris wrote:

Until now the only thing that scares me off are the two additional services, I mean that this device will cost you extra money each year. Now only for Deezer but what as TuneIn also demands money in the future, then it becomes an expensive annual joke. Terrestrial radio is still free but not possible with the Moment.

This a another thing I worry about. At the moment I have 1 preminum Spotify account used by several members of the familiy. It works with locally stored playlists at several devices. You can't use (of course) these IPad/Iphone whatever simultaneniously. So I'm at a point where I 'm considering an extra account (with familiy discount benefits). With Deezer I have to start again with new subscribtions and recite other (Spotify) subscribtion(s). And there are with Spotify already numerous playlists, like topcharts, that I and my daughters follow.

The nicest solution would be adding exiscting services into the Moment. (I know Spotify doesn't support multiroom at this moment)

 

Location: Utrecht

Quite a challenge to achieve "Less is More" while having the Beovirus.

Aussie Michael wrote:
Can you use the beoremote app to search ?

 

I don't know. I haven't  experienced that yet.

 

Despite my negative experience, I really want(ed) this Moment. It's an audiosystem which doesn't need to be controlled by any iDevice or Android. It's my personal opnion that a music system should also be able to be controlled by any other member in the room.

If I would start with a song from a playlist with my iPhone and another member enters the room and asks to change the (next) song, then that member needs acces to my iPhone to change it. But that could be inconvenient at that moment as I'm probably answering a phonecall or e-mail.

There are other brands, like Sonos, which you only can control by a handheld device. That's not what I want.

Location: Utrecht

Quite a challenge to achieve "Less is More" while having the Beovirus.

I saw it in flesh and it's terrible. It seems a case for a cheap android tablet. 

It has a poor interface, a poor feeling and the wood touch is awful

Does anyone else think the same?

I guess that was the most extreme version of disliking the BS Moment, that we have had untill now.

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

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