The Beosound Moment Beta 2.x thread

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I have pretty much the same setup - works fine.

Beroli wrote:
B.t.w. Your conclussion about the file-size is not always right, since theMoment supports high resolution file-formats as well - and some lossless file formats are pretty big either.
Maybe my remark was not accurate enough. I revered to the tag part of the file. Files with a large tag part seem to be tedious to read/analyze by the Moment and the BS5e

Moment wireless connected to Beolab 20 and wireless connected to Multiroom. Works fine!

@ Carolpa,

just wanted to have the last word 😁 . Kidding, you were right about the tags - but sadly the tags are not the reason, why my Device is being so annoying, when it comes to DLNA

@IA64,

If you own a large music-collection on a DLNA-Sevice (NAS, Software-Server...) and you have created DLNA-playlists too, you will face some terrible issues.

But (there is always a but) - if you just want to use Deezer, TuneIN and a smaller DLNA-collection (less twentythousand, no playlists on the DLNA-Server) or no DLNA at all, you will surely enjoy/love the BS-Moment very much (like Hiort, Carolpa, SandyB, Ionfred enjoying theirs). This is the focus group for the Device.

My DLNA-collection is very big, I want to use my own DLNA-playlists. This is recently not possible in a proper way, B&O knows that, since 2015 and they try to fix it since then. If you are in the focus-group, stay clear from the Beta-Test-Group. You may stuck on a broken device for a very long time with no support from B&O at all.

If you want to have a feeling for the brand, I recommend to read the thread "LifeStyle AV - Changes Part 1 and 2" from our esteemed host 9 LEE. It sums up almost our current feelings about Bang & Olufsen. I don't know, if I would start nowadays with Bang & Olufsen, again.

But since you placed the order and if you want to prepare your setup until the devices arrive, I recommend to read the whole thread "One month with the moment" from Hiort. You will find some good advises, regarding the setup, preparations (tagging, creating, playlists...) and DLNA-Servers too.

Have fun - and welcome to beoworld, Bang & Olufsen

Cheers Beroli 

My configuration: BS-Moment on a gigabit network, steady Wifi (perfect signal), BV Avant, 5 speakers connected to BV, 2 essences MK 2, several speakers, TVs and some B&O fashion devices (BeoPlay). Tested with minimServer, Synology NAS, Twonky installed on a macmini (only purpose to serve the Moment), PLEX, DS Audio ...

Beroli wrote:
@ Carolpa, just wanted to have the last word 😁 . Kidding, you were right about the tags - but sadly the tags are not the reason, why my Device is being so annoying, when it comes to DLNA
Hi Beroli, you are making an assumption that I do not use playlist in DLNA. Actually I do!

And yes, even these work properly in the Moment............... could you publish a m3u text file over here. Just to compare with the ones I have put on my DLNA server. 

 

My summary would be:

2.1 software

Pros - much better than 2.0, nice search function, better screen navigation, Moodwheel working as expected, better cover management, more stable

Cons - Very bad at managing large DLNA collections, continuously harvesting, very poor compilations albums management, Patternplay on JB screen side debatable.

2.2 beta software:

Pros - none as cons are preventing collaboration work on enhancing large DLNA collections management

Cons - update process is scary (requires multiple JB reset), Introduced serious wired/wireless speaker issues which prevent the device to be used, advanced DLNA settings while promising are not persistent, Loudness setting is not persistent, cover management is very painful, compilation management is worse than 2.1, B&O no longer responsive

Location: Brittany - France

My B&O Icons:

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Carolpa wrote:

Beroli wrote:
@ Carolpa, just wanted to have the last word 😁 . Kidding, you were right about the tags - but sadly the tags are not the reason, why my Device is being so annoying, when it comes to DLNA

Hi Beroli, you are making an assumption that I do not use playlist in DLNA. Actually I do!

And yes, even these work properly in the Moment............... could you publish a m3u text file over here. Just to compare with the ones I have put on my DLNA server. 

Hi Carolpa,

I am sorry for making this assumption. I red mostly posts from happy people about the Moment and mostly they own small DLNA-collections and no self-created playlists. I have created 68 playlists. The whole DLNA-content including the said playlists are visible and accessible after the first harvest - until the second and the third harvest kicks in. At this point the content vanishes on the BeoSound-Moment while still accessible on other devices than the BS-Moment. Even the X-App is showing the DLNA-content including the playlists. The harvesting is then on a permanent loop. It never stops - the database corrupts until I start over.

Reset Database, first harvest (perfect Device, perfect access, perfect DLNA-content), second harvest (vanishing playlists), third harvest (content vanishes), Reset Database .........

Your assumption, that there must be something wrong with my playlists, is not right either. There is no need to publish your files. I was able to use the identical DLNA-content with other Software-Versions (even 1.x) before the latest 3 Beta-Versions. As I understood, you are using minimServer - indeed a good decission. But this server does not support the expert-mode for large Collections, because of no possibilities to share a photo-folder. You see, you can not compare your setup to mine

Cheers Beroli

 

for the record and for completeness, i also use playlists on my DLNA server without problem.

I use a Synology NAS for my locally stored FLAC files - i am not that technically minded, but my DLNA playlists have been easy to manage using the Synology UI, and the Moment has had no issues with them.

My local collection is not huge. 300 albums so roughly 3000 tracks. About 25 local DLNA playlists.

 

 

 

Beroli wrote:
Carolpa wrote:
Beroli wrote:
@ Carolpa, just wanted to have the last word 😁 . Kidding, you were right about the tags - but sadly the tags are not the reason, why my Device is being so annoying, when it comes to DLNA

Hi Beroli, you are making an assumption that I do not use playlist in DLNA. Actually I do!

And yes, even these work properly in the Moment............... could you publish a m3u text file over here. Just to compare with the ones I have put on my DLNA server.

Hi Carolpa,

I am sorry for making this assumption. I red mostly posts from happy people about the Moment and mostly they own small DLNA-collections and no self-created playlists. I have created 68 playlists. The whole DLNA-content including the said playlists are visible and accessible after the first harvest - until the second and the third harvest kicks in. At this point the content vanishes on the BeoSound-Moment while still accessible on other devices than the BS-Moment. Even the X-App is showing the DLNA-content including the playlists. The harvesting is then on a permanent loop. It never stops - the database corrupts until I start over.

Reset Database, first harvest (perfect Device, perfect access, perfect DLNA-content), second harvest (vanishing playlists), third harvest (content vanishes), Reset Database .........

Your assumption, that there must be something wrong with my playlists, is not right either. There is no need to publish your files. I was able to use the identical DLNA-content with other Software-Versions (even 1.x) before the latest 3 Beta-Versions. As I understood, you are using minimServer - indeed a good decission. But this server does not support the expert-mode for large Collections, because of no possibilities to share a photo-folder. You see, you can not compare your setup to mine

Cheers Beroli

Sorry Beroli, but you just made another assumption by saying I cannot compare your setup with mine? Do you know if I tested Twonky before? Do you know my experience with Twonky? Do you know I have experience with other DLNA servers? Do you know why I choose Minimserver? You simply do not know!

The strength of this forum is to listen to each other, exchange experience, etc..... to find the reasons why someone has a problem whereas others do not! Sorry, but your answer shows an attitude!

regards

 

 

Beroli wrote:

 

@IA64,

If you own a large music-collection on a DLNA-Sevice (NAS, Software-Server...) and you have created DLNA-playlists too, you will face some terrible issues.

But (there is always a but) - if you just want to use Deezer, TuneIN and a smaller DLNA-collection (less twentythousand, no playlists on the DLNA-Server) or no DLNA at all, you will surely enjoy/love the BS-Moment very much (like Hiort, Carolpa, SandyB, Ionfred enjoying theirs). This is the focus group for the Device.

My DLNA-collection is very big, I want to use my own DLNA-playlists. This is recently not possible in a proper way, B&O knows that, since 2015 and they try to fix it since then. If you are in the focus-group, stay clear from the Beta-Test-Group. You may stuck on a broken device for a very long time with no support from B&O at all.

If you want to have a feeling for the brand, I recommend to read the thread "LifeStyle AV - Changes Part 1 and 2" from our esteemed host 9 LEE. It sums up almost our current feelings about Bang & Olufsen. I don't know, if I would start nowadays with Bang & Olufsen, again.

But since you placed the order and if you want to prepare your setup until the devices arrive, I recommend to read the whole thread "One month with the moment" from Hiort. You will find some good advises, regarding the setup, preparations (tagging, creating, playlists...) and DLNA-Servers too.

Have fun - and welcome to beoworld, Bang & Olufsen

Cheers Beroli 

My configuration: BS-Moment on a gigabit network, steady Wifi (perfect signal), BV Avant, 5 speakers connected to BV, 2 essences MK 2, several speakers, TVs and some B&O fashion devices (BeoPlay). Tested with minimServer, Synology NAS, Twonky installed on a macmini (only purpose to serve the Moment), PLEX, DS Audio ...

 

Thank you for your detailed reply. Actually my library consists of around 18K FLAC / lossless files ( discographies ) 

My dealer refused to go connect the Moment through Wifi. He said it's not as stable as the LAN so I am preparing for an internal network using gigabit switch..

I'm planning to wall-mount the moment. Does anybody know the optimum height for this ? I find the stand a bit low since I'm 6' and my wife is 5'10.

Configuration ( Avant 55 + beosound moment + BL20s ) 

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