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Thanks for the reply! Yeah I’m just experimenting with the setup. I’d like to keep the 50s in high latency mode as they def sound better. I can’t adjust the delay in the tv enough, especially since it’s passing sound via Bluetooth to my core currently. So there is major lag there. I like the idea of ordering just the sound center from an eclipse and I spoke to my dealer and he said we can do that since I have an LG GX. So I’m going to ditch the wireless transmitter and wait for the sound center to come and then I shouldn’t have issues with the latencies as they are all BO speakers (50s and 18s). I’ll let you all know how it goes! Thanks so much for all the constructive feedback 

Doubt the Sound Center will fix the latency challenge. In my experience (Harmony, 50s front and 12s rear) you will have to run the 50s in low latency to have proper sound synchronisation in a surround setup. In fact, I do think a lot of switching back and forth between latency modes is required when shifting between sources.

For movies though, I do think the low latency mode is ‘good enough’. And certainly the sound center makes controlling everything much easier vs a third party AV- receiver. S o the Sound Center is still worth the investment imo (even though it did not magically sort the latency issues in my setup).

Perhaps Michael has found a solution for running the 50s in high latency when using surround sources.

When setup with a BV you set the bl50’s to auto(latency) so the BV chooses which latency to use and it’s perfectly in sync with what ever you choose to do all the time.
Hello,

This LG article may add to information provided here

Apologise for the long link.

https://www.lg.com/ca_en/support/product-help/CT20098005-1399374324873

Beoaus

Location: Australia

Hi all! Sorry for the delay but I just ended up buying the harmony sound center and will mount my GX to that. Not the cheapest solution but definitely the best one! Can’t wait :-)

I have a technical question if anyone has any spare time and input. And sorry for sounding daft, but I’m not an expert on audio setups but is there a maximum distance, in a critical listening setup, between the left and right channels before you start losing sound quality? Maybe a better term is resolution? I’ve been playing with distance between the 50s and definitely the wider I go, the bigger the soundstage sounds and individual elements become much more distinct in terms of their position in space. Maybe I’m crazy, but as I go wider I feel the stage gets bigger but the clarity drops. Notably in vocals. It sounds less sharp I guess. Still loud and big but just fuzzier. Is this a thing? Seems to be a minimum and maximum distance in terms of sweet spot. Thanks for your time!

pastaj wrote:
the clarity drops. Notably in vocals.
Wouldn't that make sense if "phantom center channel" is to be created by the left&right speakers, since vocals are often centered in the mix?  The usual recommendation, for music, is an equilateral triangle with vertices left speaker, right speaker, & main listening position.  

By the way, one reason to use a separate subwoofer even though you have BL50s, is that the optimal position of the 50s for imaging might not be optimal for getting the most even bass (i.e. eliminating the room modes).  So substituting a properly-positioned subwoofer below some frequency, which is still above the annoying room-mode frequency you (*might*!) get from the "arbitrary" position of the 50s bass drivers, could fix some trouble, if such is audible.

Thank you! 

but I guess what I’m asking is how does one determine the optimal size of that triangle? The 50s

must have a sweet spot, no? 

pastaj wrote:

Thank you! 

but I guess what I’m asking is how does one determine the optimal size of that triangle? The 50s

must have a sweet spot, no? 

Since we are talking an equilateral triangle, it should be fairly easy to calculate, where you’d have to sit.

The sweetspot of two BL50’s can be pretty narrow or wider depending on how they are setup/configured - meaning if very narrow, you’d have to sit (and stay) right in the spot to get the optimum of ‘sweetspotting’.

However, it is possible to set up the BL50’s so that the sweetspot is not in the calculated place - this is one of the great features of these speakers.

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

Every time you move the 50’s you need to redo the calibration with the mic for optimum effect because the distances and room react differently, which in turn changes audio levels. There probably is a maximum sweetspot, but i doubt your speakers are 10+ meters apart right? Also, as mm said, the classical sweetspot is a triangle so if the speakers are lets say 5m appart the sweet spot is 5m away from either speaker and the speaker should face you head on(toe in). But you can negate most of that with the mic tuning.

thanks!! im waiting on the mic to show up so i can do that. Also, i was hoping you (mikipedia) could help with some advice on speaker group setup and speaker role assignments. I have the harmony now as well as the 50s and 18s and im trying to figure out how to assign them all to get the best sound. The three separate speakers (L,C,R) within the harmony are throwing me off. What do you have them set to? i thought i read a post saying you had them set to left front height, center, right front height. Is this the optimal setup? i hate to just shut them off. also, do you keep the 50s connected to each other with the powerlink cable at all times? i originally had them running off the Core until the Harmony arrived and now that im using them via WISA, i disconnected all cables from them except the mains and now i cannot use the configuration tool via the BO app on my iphone. LASTLY (lol, sorry for so many questions), can you adjust the speaker positioning on the harmony? when mine opens fully, the speakers end up toeing inwards and look crooked. I figured they would open up as a flat surface, parallel to the TV, but they are crooked, with the ends of them bowing outwards towards the viewer as if you were toeing them in as you would your front speakers. Thanks so much for any info. I am so pleased to have this amazing gear and cant wait to get it running properly!

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