System integration

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Hello all! 

 

so happy to find this wealth of information on, what im noticing quickly, is a murky topic regarding BO integration when trying to use non BO products with BO products. Im unbelievably grateful to have come into possession of some BL50s and 18s and i am receiving the wireless transmitter to temporarily solve my issue of pairing the two together for multiroom listening. Eventually the 18s will be rears in a "5.1" setup in my living room with the 50s being the L/R. I have heard "through the grapevine" that a new center channel/processor/WISA transmitter will be coming out soon and im wondering if anyone has heard of this bc currently im a little disappointed that i wont be able to have a functioning surround sound setup as i need to be able to control for the latency in the 50s which is fairly substantial in high latency mode. So far, i have major lipsync issues and ive been told the only way to solve this is buy a BO TV but im not looking to spend sig $$$ on technology that dates itself so quickly. I have an LG GX series from 2020 and from what i hear, BO is going to be releasing essentially the "guts" of its TVs, including a center channel, minus the screen, for just this application. 

 

Does anyone have any info regarding this?

 

Also, i have sunk some sig $$$ into some SVS SB-16 ultras and so far, doesnt look like they will play well with the BO for now. Im going to get the wireless transmitter/receiver and see if i can get the sub to work but im wondering if anyone has experimented with non BO products and wireless connections to BO speakers i mentioned above. Thanks so much and looking forward to some good discussion!

pastaj wrote:

Hello all! 

 

so happy to find this wealth of information on, what im noticing quickly, is a murky topic regarding BO integration when trying to use non BO products with BO products. Im unbelievably grateful to have come into possession of some BL50s and 18s and i am receiving the wireless transmitter to temporarily solve my issue of pairing the two together for multiroom listening. Eventually the 18s will be rears in a "5.1" setup in my living room with the 50s being the L/R. I have heard "through the grapevine" that a new center channel/processor/WISA transmitter will be coming out soon and im wondering if anyone has heard of this bc currently im a little disappointed that i wont be able to have a functioning surround sound setup as i need to be able to control for the latency in the 50s which is fairly substantial in high latency mode. So far, i have major lipsync issues and ive been told the only way to solve this is buy a BO TV but im not looking to spend sig $$ on technology that dates itself so quickly. I have an LG GX series from 2020 and from what i hear, BO is going to be releasing essentially the "guts" of its TVs, including a center channel, minus the screen, for just this application. 

 

Does anyone have any info regarding this?

 

Also, i have sunk some sig $$ into some SVS SB-16 ultras and so far, doesnt look like they will play well with the BO for now. Im going to get the wireless transmitter/receiver and see if i can get the sub to work but im wondering if anyone has experimented with non BO products and wireless connections to BO speakers i mentioned above. Thanks so much and looking forward to some good discussion!

Hi and welcome to the Beoworld forum.

Your first post here.....and you seem to jnow more than most people here ;-)

There is absolutely no info or signs, that this will happen!

However - since you already have the LG GX tv - what you could do, is to contact a B&O dealer and buy the Sound Center part (of an Eclipse, newer version).

This way you will be able to do everything you need (for controlling the BL50’s in a multichannel setup) - and there is also no need for the WiSA Transmitters there.

There definitely are people, who have setups with B&O speakers and non-B&O A/V gear, but I doubt that you will have success especially with the BL50’s in such a setup.

Those who disagree - feel free to give constructive recommendations (maybe a preprocessor like the Altitude 16 from Trinnow Audio could do the job, but that is not cheap).

Furthermore, I hardly believe that you will need the SVS SB-16’s, when you have the BL50’s, unless you are able to do some serious bas management, have a big livingroom and/or are an ultra-heavy-bas-type of listener.

Will be interesting to hear about how you get along with such a setup.

 

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

thanks for the reply! 

I just want to be able to use the subs for LFE and keep the 50s managing everything else to take some strain off of them. I know they are capable but so are the SB-16s. 

2 months ago i knew none of this! lol. i am just a very inquisitive person and tend to dive in head first to whatever it is that piques my interest. I have read just about everything available from BO and im wondering why the heck they make things so "proprietary" and mysterious. Def seems like the pitfalls of a "smaller" company. They make amazing products and my dad had a pair of them when i was a kid and ive always gravitated towards their stuff bc it is so visually appealing as well as great sounding. 

 

Anyways, yeah, id prefer to wait instead of buying an older unit bc i want to have wisa and hopefully an atmos processor built into the center channel, and i have to keep my secrets but i do have a "guy" that said he spoke to his BO rep here in the states and confirmed that possibly a march/april release date for said product. fingers crossed. in the meantime, the wireless transmitter is on the way and likely will be for sale very cheap in the near future if this center channel comes out. 

 

lastly, does anyone know if the wireless transmitter has controllable settings for each speaker pair linked? can you change the delays and whatnot? does it do it automatically? or will i likely experience a mismatch in audio when the 50s and 18s are linked to the transmitter? 

 

thanks so much!

What fo you mean by “the wireless transmitter”? The b&o one? If so, that one i believe only does 2.1

HEY! dude you're a legend on youtube, watched all your videos before i bought my 50s :-)

the BO wireless transmitter. the white one. it says it does 2.1 and 7.1, just have to flip a switch on the back of it. I know it doesnt have any internal sound processing (DSP, dolby digital, etc), at least its not mentioned on the website. for now i want to use it to connect my 50s, 18s, and SB-16s for a mega setup.

And to the previous post, i listen to everything from classical to hip-hop. So i like bass when it fits the genre. And nothing beats a good chest thump. 

 

also, just realized there is a reply button. lol im a newb

pastaj wrote:

 

2 months ago i knew none of this! lol. i am just a very inquisitive person and tend to dive in head first to whatever it is that piques my interest. I have read just about everything available from BO and im wondering why the heck they make things so "proprietary" and mysterious. Def seems like the pitfalls of a "smaller" company. They make amazing products and my dad had a pair of them when i was a kid and ive always gravitated towards their stuff bc it is so visually appealing as well as great sounding. 

 

B&O makes ‘things’ so “proprietary” in order to be sure that ‘things’ work together in the best possible way.

Have you read the Technical Sound Guides?

For the BL50’s here: link

For the newer BV’s/Siund Center here: link

 

MM

 

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

pastaj wrote:

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the BO wireless transmitter. the white one. it says it does 2.1 and 7.1, just have to flip a switch on the back of it. I know it doesnt have any internal sound processing (DSP, dolby digital, etc), at least its not mentioned on the website. for now i want to use it to connect my 50s, 18s, and SB-16s for a mega setup.

The Transmitter 1 is nothing but a wireless (PL) cable for each speaker - you will have to feed it with the decoded multichannel signals (L, R, C and so on) from an audio processor (which is where ‘things’ happen).

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

The much speculated about "centre speaker / audio processing hub / guts" is now pretty unlikely in my opinion.

I'm pretty sure it was under consideration a while back, especially when it seemed B&O would stop releasing new TVs (with the audio engine built in).

It seems though that since they have continued to release new TV products, that such an independent product is unlikely. 

They seem to have settled on a simple soundbar (Stage) for those who want a simple solution, and carried on releasing TVs for those who want an expandable solution.

While a couple of people on the forum have bought an Eclipse sound centre and used it with an existing LG (with a bit of DIY in the middle). I dont believe it fully replicates an Eclipse and its functionality, but in some circumstances I guess will just about suffice.

So yes, its a bit frustrating that there isnt a simple way to clip on an existing LG to a sound centre, or that there isnt a Stage+ sound bar which can integrate into a surround setup, in the end I dont believe that anything is coming. I'd take most dealer talk with a big pinch of salt - as I said, when they were probably correct that the company was considering it a while back, product releases and development since then would suggest that such an idea is on the back burner at best.

As for your current speakers, trust me 50s and 18s will blow you away, without any need for the SVS. Any B&O sound engine will likely perform better with the 50s / 18s attached, compared to the same with the SVS added into the mix.

 

I don’t have one but if iam not mistaken and looking through the manual the 7.1 only works from a b&o tv or a surround sound processor and then you feed the individual cables the pl ports on the back. I am not aware of a way to break out the sound from an LG to atleast 4 individual cables(if not 8 of them). Maybe Steve could help with this more?

Btw have you tried to delay the picture to sound out in the LG menu? LG has a slider in the sound sub menu for people that have lipsinc issues. In this case the bl50’s should be in low latency mode.

I honestly don’t see a reason for subs with 50’s but you can if you want to obviously, but you’ll need a surround decored like a marantz or similar. My concrete room shakes easily if requested 😎

Btw, thanks for watching the YT content 😁

Thanks for the reply! Yeah I’m just experimenting with the setup. I’d like to keep the 50s in high latency mode as they def sound better. I can’t adjust the delay in the tv enough, especially since it’s passing sound via Bluetooth to my core currently. So there is major lag there. I like the idea of ordering just the sound center from an eclipse and I spoke to my dealer and he said we can do that since I have an LG GX. So I’m going to ditch the wireless transmitter and wait for the sound center to come and then I shouldn’t have issues with the latencies as they are all BO speakers (50s and 18s). I’ll let you all know how it goes! Thanks so much for all the constructive feedback 

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