Stylus retipping opinions...

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Just a quick update -

I've received a reply from Expert Stylus:

Model: B & O MMC 20CL S/N 15

Coils: 759 Ohms

Suspension: Good

Cantilever: Sapphire - Fractured

Diamond: Missing

Recommendation: Cleaning of the cartridge, rebonding cantilever protector guard, machine an abutment and fit new sapphire cantilever together with ultra low mass Paratrace profile diamond.

All good, however, the price has now increased from £155 to £170 😂 - I've asked why.

Will go ahead with the repair and see what comes back in 6-7 weeks!

Location: Nottingham, UK

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That actually still sounds really good to me.  I guess the extra 15 GBP is for the inspection and report fee as previously mentioned.  Still sounds a bargain considering to buy a used, unknown condition similar cartirdge can be a lot more.  Please report back when it arrives back with you.  This service is something a lot of us would be interested in.

Dave.

Yes hopefully good value!

They've replied that the additional £15.00 is for rebonding the perspex stylus guard - goes to show you don't get anything for free 😁.

Location: Nottingham, UK

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MrRoast wrote:
Yes hopefully good value!

 

 

They've replied that the additional £15.00 is for rebonding the perspex stylus guard - goes to show you don't get anything for free 😁.

Fair enough - time, alignment, fixative, inspection etc.  All in all I think it's a good price.  There are some MMC20CL's on eBay for well over 400 USD!  With no guarantee that they won't need working on.  Crazy.

 

Well a long overdue update!

It's taken just over three months from Expert Stylus Company receiving the MMC20CL to me getting it back - slightly longer than the 6-7 weeks they initially quoted, but I wasn't in a hurry!

The stylus arrived today and well packaged...

Sadly my Beogram 4000 is currently in storage so I can't test it just yet, although I'm looking forward to doing so!

Location: Nottingham, UK

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Seems the plastic guard is lose or at least in a strange angle ?

Martin

Hello I have tried ESC and unfortunately they were unable to repair some of my MMC4 and MMC5s and returned them to me, however, they were repairable.  Out of 5 cartridges only one worked.  They tend to be very slow at the repairing.  I am rather disappointed and will try elsewhere.

@ Dillen

Hi Martin, I did think it looked a little odd in the package so have lined it up against my original MMC20EN - the guard looks decidedly high and slightly rotated head on. Hmm not the level of detail I was expecting to be honest and given I was charged an additional £15.00 for the re-bonding!

It's the first time I've had a stylus rebuild and so am fairly green, but to me the length of the cantilever seems short? (when compared to the EN). I've not tried playing with it yet but your thoughts are very welcome.

@ Prof Flynn

Hmmm, not good 'word-of-mouth' for them it seems so far! 

Here are some pictures of the CL and original EN

Location: Nottingham, UK

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Just a slight update - I've had the opportunity to speak to one of the chaps at Expert Stylus Company, I believe his name was Wyndham.

He was very genial over the phone and said they'd done quite a lot of B&O cartridge repairs (he even name checked @ Prof Flynn as a very satisfied customer!). I asked about the guard and cantilever length and he said he'd expect the length to be within a few thousandths of an inch of the original (which doesn;t look like to me). He's asked me if I can mount the cartridge on the arm to check the clearance and get back to him next week. I was told that they'd take it back and re look at it if I was unhappy.

Let's see where we go from here...

 

Location: Nottingham, UK

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To me it likes they have cut off a peace of the old cantilever and then soldered a a new piece with the diamond to the old one.

IMO the cantilever should be soldered to the the moving cross after desoldering the old cantilever, this also to keep the weight of the cantilever down.

I think nothing was done to the suspension and heaven knows if the old suspension has been damaged further from the soldering

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