I don't think that the speakers are the same, just look at the price of BL12, also, the BL12 speaker units require extremely little cabinet volume BUT a wall right behind.

It would be nice to have a review of the sound of the V1-40 and V1-32 vs the Beolit 12 ...

Could early owners rate the sound?

And regarding the surround module. I think that B&O recommend that you let your player make the decoding and then send it to the TV as PCM, therefore there is no need to support DTS, DD TrueHD, DTS MA etc.

Reason for supporting DD surround (from my point of view) is that you need this for TV signals using HD, where the sound normally (always?) is using Dolby Digital.

By doing so, B&O also saves money as they don't need to buy license to all the different formats.

beolion wrote:

I don't think that the speakers are the same, just look at the price of BL12, also, the BL12 speaker units require extremely little cabinet volume BUT a wall right behind.

I think they have about the same amount of cabinet volume actually and I think it is easier for B&O to use one solution in several places instead of many different parts. But I am not sure. The BeoLit 12 has a price set after function, design and quality, I don't think the price is just for the speakers.

I agree that a comparison between the systems would be interesting also =)

beolion wrote:

And regarding the surround module. I think that B&O recommend that you let your player make the decoding and then send it to the TV as PCM, therefore there is no need to support DTS, DD TrueHD, DTS MA etc.

Reason for supporting DD surround (from my point of view) is that you need this for TV signals using HD, where the sound normally (always?) is using Dolby Digital.

By doing so, B&O also saves money as they don't need to buy license to all the different formats.

Michael wrote:

I am not sure that all players can decode the signal. And if they do, is it good enough?

I can't speak definitively to the first issue - however, I will say that I have yet to see a Blu-ray player that does not support all of the currently standard formats for Blu-ray and DVD.

As to the second question, certification by Dolby and/or DTS means that you have their assurance that the decoded PCM conversion to the HDMI output is correct, whether it's in a player, AVR, surround processor, or television. This, in turn, means that there is no loss of quality incurred by sending a PCM signal via a player's HDMI output (instead of the bitstream) to the audio processor in a B&O TV. Consequently, you don't need to worry about loss of sound performance caused by using a PCM stream instead of an encoded one, if the player has been certified (this will be stated in its manual).

cheers

-geoff

Geoff Martin wrote:

Michael wrote:

I am not sure that all players can decode the signal. And if they do, is it good enough?

I can't speak definitively to the first issue - however, I will say that I have yet to see a Blu-ray player that does not support all of the currently standard formats for Blu-ray and DVD.

As to the second question, certification by Dolby and/or DTS means that you have their assurance that the decoded PCM conversion to the HDMI output is correct, whether it's in a player, AVR, surround processor, or television. This, in turn, means that there is no loss of quality incurred by sending a PCM signal via a player's HDMI output (instead of the bitstream) to the audio processor in a B&O TV. Consequently, you don't need to worry about loss of sound performance caused by using a PCM stream instead of an encoded one, if the player has been certified (this will be stated in its manual).

cheers

-geoff

Thanks Geoff for your most calming answer. I have to say, one of the reasons I usually pick DTS when available, is to see the nice piano intro that they sometimes have. But I also feel that DTS sounds better somehow. 

I came to think about another thing, how about if the source material is stereo. Can the V1 make it into fake surround? Like DTS Neo:6 for example, which I use on my yamaha receiver sometimes. I am not planning to use a surround setup with it right now but I think others might want to use all of their speakers when watching movies from TV-broadcasts that usually are in stereo only.

Thanks again!

Cheers,

//Michael

Aren't things getting mixed up a little here..? (the first postings).
One is talking about Beolit 12 while another is talking about Beolab 12...😂

Stefmag5 wrote:

Aren't things getting mixed up a little here..? (the first postings). One is talking about Beolit 12 while another is talking about Beolab 12...