Pronto device and Beo6

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Nite nite everyone.

I came across and ad for a phillips pronto device full in box.

And wanted to check with you that this is the only hardware needed to learn "any" IR code to feed the Beo6?

I think I've understood that i will need some more software to convert formats: are this software available and is the conversion something easy done?

You have understand my goal: being able to use the Beo6 with any IR controllable device and being autonomous to program it as needed.

Did a quick search on this forum and the archived one but didn't find and clear answer and some intel about "protected codes" add confusion to me.

Thanks a lot. 

Location: Paris France

The Philips Pronto was state of the art in terms of remote control, much more advanced than e.g. Logitech Harmony remote controls and there where many code converting possibilities. If you like the Pronto and it can learn all IR codes you need, go for it. Try the software on your computer before if possible. Keep in mind that Windows 10 is a source of problems, too with older hard- and software (driver support for example).

Other systems that can lean IR codes:

- RTI
- Crestron
- Lintronic

Easy learning and convertig of IR codes into B&O format is done with the Lintronic converter which can generate XML files, too:

www.lintronic.dk

http://www.lintronic.dk/CodeLearn.pdf

If you have Pronto codes, you don't need the Lintronic hardware according to Keith's helpful site:
http://beo5.beoworld.org/Using%20the%20Lintronic%20Software.htm

There was a Beo 5 XML converter on Beoworld, too.


RTI is easy, too. Here's the biggest problem: Where to get the software.
They have very great and capable hardware and the software is relatively easy, too.

Crestron can do everything but is very complicated and the software is not accessible for private customers.

 

Hi TWG,

Thank you for your answer. This things doesn't seems to have an easy answer!

Well, to me it was more the offer making the possibility: Fond a Pro,to RU950 as new, full in box for 50€. SO i wondered if it gonna be enough to  be able to clone "any" remote into the Beo6. But seems it's not that easy and the problem would be more to transfer the code after relevant conversion into the B&O remote.

What I understand from your answer is.

- The Pronto device should be able to learn the code. But it will need conversion.

- You need the intronic software for that: but the link you provide is dead and as far as i understand the software need a paying license.

- Other solution are or complicated or difficult to find. And i suppose they will need a complementary specific hardware too?

I've have 3 beo6 which i get for free ro close too, And i like to "play" with it like I did with the CT to display full size pictures on the screen.
Meaning that i would rather a "cheap" or "free" solution. Or at least not an heavy investment.

There is a lot of topics about IR codes, conversion, timings, but they're all quite difficult to understand to my "copy/paste" knowledge :-)

Anyway, thanks for helping.

 

Location: Paris France

Well after a little more digging I've found this old thread which seems to confirm that there's no "easy" solution to convert Pronto codes to Beo6 natively understandable IR codes (appart from the iPad app if I'm not wrong, but won't work for me as I do not own such device).

Location: Paris France

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Location: Hampshire, England

Hi Keith,

To be honest I was hoping you will chime in at a certain point.

Thanks to pointing me those links. I've have already seen them but as you mentioned them I took care to read them carefully.

I've then learned that NEC and RC5 type IR codes are natively compatible with CT.

The second part is a little bit more fuzzy to me: "and for others I use the little understood "Bitstream" encoding to achieve ALL the functionally of the original remote for 99% of third party products." Could you explain or orient me to understand it?

I've also understood that the "missing link" between Pronto RU950 and Beo6 is the tool you have developed. But from what I read it is not publicly available. 

So here I am still. Thank you anyway.

Location: Paris France

Reply with a few commands you have pronto codes of and I will convert them to a working XML file for your Beo6

I will then explain how the conversion is achieved and "Bitstream" in detail which will take me sometime to write because its complex.

In laymans terms "Bitstream" means constructing every part of the IR waveform including pulse and pause (space) width, carrier frequency within the pulse, start pulse and pause widths and checksum calculation. It means you can construct ANY IR signal no matter what protocol it uses from any IR transmitting remote.

Location: Hampshire, England

Thank you Keith for your proposal.

Right now it wouldn't make sense to send you any pronto codes. I hanvent bought the device yet so any codes i would send wouldn't be of any use to me after you convert them. 

Hum, the Bitstream method looks like very complex. Not sure i would be able to use it so maybe it's not worth spending your time in explaining it. At least for me only. But thank you anyway.

Regards.

Location: Paris France

Hi Kieth,

I have downloaded "

Exeter, Devon, UK

Maybe an answer here?

Location: Paris France

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