Personally, I would be seriously contemplating telling them to "poke" their advertising in whatever form and their TV with it!!!

why would dealers object ?,  thought they be happy

Malcolm

I would have thought a completely free (to them) form of advertising would have been most attractive both the B&O UK and the dealers, especially at a time when trading conditions were hard. I imagine this was the thought of B&O UK in offering the BV8-40 as a prize as this would no doubt be reported widely. Anything which increases the positive reception given to the product would be beneficial as it would encourage customers to go and look at the set at their dealers. Quite why any dealer would object completely eludes me.

We have tried to promote dealerships even before any thought of sponsorship or whatever it might be called, and the enthusiasm of the dealers has been completely lacking with a couple of notable exceptions. There are all sorts of things that a web site of this nature could do to promote the brand and the dealer network. With very little encouragement we could publish articles about dealers, introducing them to the web browsers who frequent this site. Entering a B&O dealer can be a daunting prospect - the next set of window displays are trying to encourage more footfall - however a little basic knowledge before entering helps considerably especially when not couched in advertising speech. This is where both our database and the forum offer so much. There are very few negative threads, unlike the old official forum, and a wealth of friendly helpful people ready to encourage an entry into B&O ownership. But it would seem that some dealers have better ideas - no doubt they are satisfied with their sales figures already.

Peter wrote:

...There are very few negative threads, unlike the old official forum, and a wealth of friendly helpful people ready to encourage an entry into B&O ownership. But it would seem that some dealers have better ideas - no doubt they are satisfied with their sales figures already.

well said.

So, they don't want to be referred to as official sponsors, and the dealer network objects to the association!

Perhaps the objectors would like to identify themselves so that their Beoworld userid can be removed, they obviously see little benefit in it and hardly ever browse the site I imagine!

Maybe it's because they feel threatened as the major source of easily accessible, timely (factual) product information/support??

Very, very strange!

joeyboygolf wrote:

Personally, I would be seriously contemplating telling them to "poke" their advertising in whatever form and their TV with it!!!

Agree. This sort of

Bit of a catch 22 this one, as if we knock B&O dealers for what we perceive as their arrogance or insecurity we probably end up reinforcing their distrust of the site, but on the other hand if we say nothing because we want to keep B&O on side bearing in mind the sweet prize they were offering then this wouldn't be much of a public forum where people's honest opinions can be aired.

For what it's worth I think suspicious dealers are terrified of having informed customers through the door, otherwise why the over reaction? Trip made a good point a few months ago that the only gushing praise to be found on here is for products manufactured before 1990, so in some ways I can't actually blame them!

I can't really say too much, but i can assure all members that a great number of dealers in the UK have no issues at all with BeoWorld and use the site regularly for reference.  You can therefore deduce that it was a small number of dealers that objected. Small being a very small number indeed.

B&O UK have to be seen to react to any complaints from their dealer network, so i understand. They have to act.

Of course, i'd love one of our members to receive a BV8-40" and will refrain from telling anyone to poke it! For the greater good and all that.. LOL

I've never been in the business of falling out with people, it's not something i enjoy - so i'll stay smiling 🙂

Lee

j0hnbarker wrote:

Trip made a good point a few months ago that the only gushing praise to be found on here is for products manufactured before 1990, so in some ways I can't actually blame them!

A good point, though Beolab 5 and 9s always get plenty of praise as do most of the Beolab range - except the Beolab 4 (shudder!) The Beosound 9000 again rarely has a bad word said about it except for reliability which has improved.

The rest of the range gets good and bad reviews depending on what one expects. B&O have not been that good at software and as so much of the present range is software driven, faults here tend to annoy people, especially when paying a high price. B&O know what the answer is! I am looking forward to the BV10 which is really the BV5 in LCD and made a lighter feeling product. Not so keen on the stand - I think the easel idea is still the best.