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i'd say the 4000+ playmaker combo would be better as the 4000s have larger cabinet volume and better frequency range. However i've not had any experience  with the playmaker though.

For me its an EASY win; 4000 everytime...the Beoplay A8 honestly (i heard it one time only) seems to me an overpriced and overrated item;made in China maybe.

Sorry for being so drastic;but really, i love B&O stuff until the early 2000s...i know that the world has changed,but for me ,performance-wise and looking -wise the BL4000 are AWESOME.

The 4000s are great speakers ! No opinion on A8's

For me B&O is (or was) alla about shape AND materials...the BL 400 have both; honestly speaking the A8 has neither

And; i know that it's not fair comparing new products vs 2nd hand ones; but a pair of used Beolab 4000 would be even cheaper that the Beoplay A8; and for sure much better looking.

Do anybody know if the Beoplay brand is selling well - which i hope - or not ?

Here in Italy it's retail price is 1.149 EUR; which for me is near obscene for a docking station...between the A8 and the Iphone one would spend near 2.000 EUR; and you can buy an incredible REAL Hi-fi System for that price....or even less.

In the past; a B&O product was really different - in better way - comparing to other brands; but owadays a BeoPlay A8 is not diferent from a SONY or BOSE docking stations which are around 500 - 600 EUR (still a lot for a docking station IMHO; but this is subjective).

Is actually the BeoPlay brand  a success for B&O ?

Mindphaser wrote:

Do anybody know if the Beoplay brand is selling well - which i hope - or not ?

I guess "well" is always relative . . . . .

When "us lucky few" were in Struer in May we found that in the entrance to the Farm's lobby there was a Beovision operating as a Beoplay sales tracker (see below).

I think then numbers are probably impressive by B&O standards (remember the BeoLit 12 was still young at tat time) but of course real success is a function of quantity, revenue and margins yielding profit !

But I think Tue's real measure of success would be the great hope that the majority of these sales are nett new customers to the B&O family ....

*groan* ultra-large picture - click & scroll to the right for the BeoLit data

For me it's the other way!  I've never ever warmed to the design of the BL4000's whereas I think the BS8 / A8 is iconic and for me, it will be a design classic in years to come!

I think the two are very very much different markets. It's like comparing an Audi A6 with a Porsche Boxster S.  Both same price both so different!

FINALLY, I noticed some real attention to the A8 in the Apple stores in London last weekend. It was really nice to see kids of 15+ running up to it and very classy 25+ ladies enjoying it. I also noticed a male model buying one in Harrods (he was later in Dolce&Gabbana as I was there buying a DOLCE&GABBANA leather case for my iPhone).

BeoLit12 wasn't quite receiving as much attention though. But I think it's quite cute. Not sure about that Leather hangle though - they say it is Italian, but it didn't look that high a quality hmmmm!

The new look B&O stand in Harrods is looking incredible! I think the dealers really need to copy their layout with the B&O printed book shelves on the walls etc. A lot more contemporary!

From what I saw, certainly a young crowd buying into the B&O PLAY. demographic wise 25 - 28

I'm 27 and recently bought the BeoPlay Tv which I love 😁

JK That's AWESOME!!! Are you enjoying it? Do you have an Apple TV box connected to it?