I guess that Panasonic wants to ensure that they can’t be sued because of screen burn.

This also means that they ‘know’ that screen burn is a possibility.

MM

Millemissen wrote:

I guess that Panasonic wants to ensure that they can’t be sued because of screen burn.

This also means that they ‘know’ that screen burn is a possibility.

MM

Funny that when the majority of new TVs were LCD, the broadcasters all started putting fixed logos on their programmming. Now, will they need to consider logo removal as LCDs fall from favour?

Graham

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOcLasaRCzY

Endless amounts have been written on this.

Consensus seems to be that image retention is not the same as screen burn. The former is not permanent, the latter is.

Long story short, if you watch CNN or Bloomberg all day, which have huge banners covering alot of the screen, then there is the possibility of a problem.

Small sporting score HUD's I think are much less of a potential issue.

But in the end, it does sound as if OLED's require a bit of care, and some buyers view this as an unacceptable flaw / characteristic, and tend to avoid OLEDs.

Micro LED won't suffer from this, but there won't likely be any retail products for quiet a while (think 3-4 years until a proper retail choice).

 

Again though, if you’re anywhere near a normal viewer not much will happen. 4.5 hours a day with CNN on at full brightness still gives you 4 years of viewing time before you notice it on anything other than when you screen displays one single colour through out the image. So is it a worry? Not really. Do you only watch CNN? Just get help and stop doing that 😎

I do watch Bloomberg TV quite a bit, though that's work related.

Since working from home, I did leave Bloomberg on for a long time on my 12-65, and there is a not small image burnt in.

That said, I never notice it (it was pointed out to me by my installer when he was round)

So yes, I wouldn't worry too much about OLED retention, unless I was a 8hr a day gamer (which I'm not).

Anyway, micro LED is still a ways off the time you can into a retail store and have a regular choice of sizes, brands, prices.

The Rtngs.com YouTube I posted earlier should give people some comfort, if I remember correctly.

 

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The very reason the Eclipse does this when there’s inactivity.

It’s also not a good idea to switch off an OLED from the mains instantly after going to standby because it takes about 15 minutes for the screen to run a standby maintenance cycle.

My Eclipse is two years old. I watch a bit of CNN and MSNBC but also a lot of other stuff. When a see a single color image I can definitely see channel logos in the lower right, and I also notice a horizontal line approx where the breaking news bar is. Is this retention or burn? Should I raise this as a warranty issue?

thanks!

Initially it’s retention, over time it becomes burn in. It’s worse with red colours like cnn’s logo and probably msnbc too. Maybe it’s a good idea to run a screen refresh cycle more often and make sure the tv isn’t in the sun.