No 4k streaming for avant - should we care?

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All the reviews point out that the new avant doesn't have the required codec for 4k streaming and that the hdmi port is somehow not the latest and greatest. 

Should I care?

I would like to buy one in the next month (I.e I can't wait or we will have no TV) and while I don't foresee streaming 4k in the next 18 months I don't want to have to feel stupid when netflix moves the majority of stuff to 4k. 

B&O apparently wants an external box to do the 4k input but will that actually work if the hdmi is 'crippled'. I should also note that I am allergic to all external boxes except the Apple TV which I can hide in the machine. 

I have a beovision 12 which I think has an incredible picture so I understand that 4k in and of itself is not required for excellence. 

my main concern is that I am buying a TV that will stick around for 8 to 10 years. Would I be making a mistake. Is it better to buy the new 4k sony with the big built in speakers and wait for b and o to deliver a mkII, or see if I can get a used beovision 11 somewhere. 

thanks for the advice. 

 

P

 

I never had a 12, but i would just keep that and see how things pan out. The best TV for watching HD, is the best HD TV i.e. the 7-55 or the 12. SD the original Avant.

When UHD becomes mainstream, then and only then would i personally consider giving up my 7 but god knows what type of connections and boxes etc will be needed.

+ 1 with chris

The truth is that uhd is just in the beginning of taking shape. Living on the bleeding edge has always been costly and done through betatests with standards. Hdmi 2.2 will have uhd copy protection that makes streaming and viewing uhd content guarded so an avant with hdmi 1.4 is out for that if and when that standard gets out and be the norm. But hey that may never happen or may happen a long time away. Enjoy the avant and sell it when the next hdmi standard becomes the norm and a must. Who would want a tv with dvi and not hdmi today?

in summary, you should care and b&o should care. B&o have made a bad call here not keeping up with standards in spite of this tv being made up to be at the front of the uhd evolution. Other manufacturers have gone with a modular tech design because of a needed and expected evolution of the uhd standard so parts in the tv can be upgraded as needed for a time.A uhd tv without hdmi 2.x and not having the needed codecs that is standard for content viewing will not be able to play future content. A good looking tv without content is art not a tv.

Sorry was not clear. The beovision 12 is in a different house. So the option is to get an avant, try and find a used beovision 11 or a sony of some sort. 

 

Thanks

 

p

No reason to wait

i received confirmation from a very reliable source a few weeks ago that B&O will release a software update later this year that will update all HDMI connectors to version 2.0.

HDMI 1 will furthermore get HDCP 2.2, while HDMI 2-6 will continue using HDCP 1.4 

Please note that HDMI 6 in the easy access module cannot accept UHD and will not be able to accept UHD even after the software update.

It's awesome how they prepped for this, no hardware upgrade needed, just a sw update  

Way to go B&O :-)


HHH wrote:

No reason to wait

i received confirmation from a very reliable source a few weeks ago that B&O will release a software update later this year that will update all HDMI connectors to version 2.0.

HDMI 1 will furthermore get HDCP 2.2, while HDMI 2-6 will continue using HDCP 1.4

Please note that HDMI 6 in the easy access module cannot accept UHD and will not be able to accept UHD even after the software update.

It's awesome how they prepped for this, no hardware upgrade needed, just a sw update

Way to go B&O :-)

Regarding HDMI and HDCP you are right, but there will be no way (software update or hardware replacement) to add codec HEVC/H265 to the current Avant. When this codec will be needed to watch 4K content (Netflix etc.) you can throw the actual Avant out of the window, and this will happen very soon. This is a very good reason to wait for Avant Mk2, at least!

Regards

Räuber
Most people view Netflix via a box and

In the future this will be the same - so what is the issue? Seems like a reason for throwing stones at the latest product.

There is no issue here.

If I 'very soon' would have to 'throw an Avant out of the window', because of the missing direct support for HEVC, I'd have to throw out all other BV's out too.

 

If the 4K content of Netflix is really that important, an external PUC controlled Box would do the job on the Avant (after the updating of the HDMI-port).

The much greater problem will be the tuners. When tv will be broadcasted in HEVC-standart too, we will need an extra, extra box for that.

When that will happen, noone knows - maybe at that time it will be time for a new tv anyway.


How can someone who claims to be 'allergic to all external boxes' even consider a 'Sony however 4K tv'?

That tv would mean external boxes - starting with the AppleTV - without PUC controlling, and a miserable remote control etc.

 

If you really want exellent PQ today, go for Bluray's on any of the newer BV's (including the 7-55's).

Besides - most people use their tv's most of the time for watching tv programs in less than FullHD quality. A direct support for a few Netflix 4K movies won't change anything there..

No tv as of today is prepared for the future, because we don't know yet, what the future will bring - not even the near future.

 

So - of cource we should care about the missing aupport for HEVC.

But it should not keep anyone away from buying an Avant today, if he/she likes it for the 'overall-performance'.

However, if your preference is watching 4K/Netflix, maybe you should buy a 'Sony however 4K tv' - and live with a non-B&O tv as  it is.

 

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

So am I correct in saying that if apple comes with an Apple TV that supports netflix 4k streaming (and I assume apple 4k streamed content) that it will be able to feed this into the TV through the software updated hdmi input?

In other words the hdmi input once updated will support 4k content that has already been uncompressed by some other external box  

All very confusing I must say. 

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