New TV. Time for a change?

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BAND'OH! wrote:

Thanks for your thoughts John. I wonder, given what you have said, would you still choose the Horizon over the BV11-46 then? I guess I would be spending the same amount for either. The Horizon offers 4K plus an extra 2" screen size and a newer panel, which is backlit albeit global dimming that is not anywhere as good as full dimming 512+ zones that the former BV7-55 Mark 2 utilised.

Having thought it through a bit more, I will probably buy 2 x BL3s on floor stands and a BL2 sub to go with the BL9s as fronts, so that would be my surround setup. So BV11-46 or Horizon as the tv?

Cheers,
Simon. 

Hi Simon

Firstly an apology to you and other contributors; I made a first post on the topic that simply disappeared into cyber space when I hit 'post', so not having saved it, I made another shorter one which did post successfully - I now see the first post has come through as well - apologies to all for two posts saying the same thing effectively.

To address your query; in a surround sound setup as your are proposing, and as a TV to use in the interim whilst B&O move towards OLED etc, I would go with the latest tech and the biggest screen size - ergo the Horizon.

May I suggest you have a look at the latest technical sound guide out for the TV, and check out the fine details for bass redirection in the speaker setup table; I'm pretty sure that at Factory defaults the bass will be redirected to the speaker set considered to be the most capable in terms of handling low bass for LFE etc.  In the case of my V1-40. the only speaker where bass will not be redirected to the Lab 9's for surround sound purposes, are Lab 5's.

That is to say, a single Beolab 2 is not considered as capable as TWO Beolab 9s when it comes to handling low bass/LFE effects for the system.

There was a discussion some years ago with Dr. Geoff Martin, which resulted from a post I made asking about how Adaptive Bass Linearisation worked; apparently one Beolab 2 is roughly equal to one Beolab 9 - the Lab 2 will play slightly lower and louder, but with the Lab 9, you have two of them in play.

So unless you deliberately 'tell' the system to re-route all low bass to the Lab 2, low bass will be re-directed to the Lab 9's in conjunction with Lab 3's at the rear, making the Lab 2 potentially redundant.  Of course, one may prefer to use a single sub, for reasons of placement etc, or to tie in with the Lab 3's to make them a full bandwidth system.

But certainly on movie LFE material I find the bass output of the Lab 9's prodigious to say the least - many times I jumped up in alarm on first listen to some movies thinking something in the speaker had broken! - only to find various objects in the room buzzing and vibrating in sympathy with the bass - including doors in frames!  Awesome!   And no, I don't 'thrash' the system - usually on movies I'm listening circa 60 on the volume, max being 90, in a room 5 x 4 metres.

And lastly, once you have a new Beovision TV with OLED etc in a year or so, the Horizon is still a very up to date set re technology, that as a design is very versatile for further use in other areas in the home.

Anyway, just my thoughts... hope it helps..

Kind regards

 

John.. :-)

 

 

 

 

Thanks John, yes your post does help a lot and I am in agreement that the Horizon 48" is the better tv so I'll let the dealer I am buying from know during the week. I must admit I do like the look for the Horizon, especially how it sits on top of a table/base unit as pictured.

It would be interesting to know if the Horizon produces a better picture than a BV11, say a 2014/2015 model for example. Wonder if anyone has made any side by side comparisons playing SD/HD content and could comment?

Regarding the sound, it's interesting to note your thoughts about the BL9s as I too assumed I would not need an extra sub with them; it was a dealer who mentioned that, so I'll check with them again why they were suggesting this. The other option is to trade in the BL9s and use a completely different setup with the new Horizon, for example a BL14 5.1 system. Of course while great for movie, I would probably be getting less quality when playing music only, so perhaps not a good trade in after all?

Simon.

Keep the 9's, I wasn't impressed by the 14 system at all.

Not sure about comparing the picture to an 11 which I used to own, but it's UHD and looks very good in the short time I've seen it.🤒

Thanks Chris. The panel is newer in the Horizon but that doesn't necessarily mean it is any better. I am hoping it might be but be good to hear other's opinions. I guess dealers might like to chime in on this one perhaps?

Currently it is the processing that has a negative impact on picture quality. Lots of side effects in the picture. Judder-control must be switched off for instance. Perhaps this improves in the future.

Are you referring to any specific model Bart?

Horizon 40 inch.

Hi Simon,

I tried to send you an email, if you didn't get it then email me and I will try again, here is my email;

tonyjohnson.luthier@gmail.com

Tony

Hi Tony,

Yes I did receive your email thanks. It was nice of you to write and to send over your thoughts having seen both TVs side by side. I am not in the North and I am going to be buying the Horizon but thanks for the offer either way.

Cheers,
Simon. 

Hi Simon,

I'm glad you have made your decision, and I am sure you will enjoy the Horizon.

Tony

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