New Amp/Tuner

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Hello all!

I've enjoyed this site for awhile and have now joined and have a question.  I've been in the process of "restoring" my wife's B&O components: Two S45 speakers and a Beogram 1900 turntable. She loved the sound when she bought it 40 or so years ago and loves it still.  She is an opera buff but enjoys rock and classical music as well.  Me, I follow along and just enjoy.  The question: when she bought the B&O components years ago she paired them with a Harman Kordan tuner. Unfortunately, something went wrong with it after one of our many moves and we no longer have it. But - she chose it as carefully as the speakers and turntable. So, what tuner can you recommend that is appropriate to the S45 speakers and Beogram 1900 turntable. I suppose it should include a CD player.  What we're using now isn't worth mentioning.

Thanks for any suggestions. Bill 

Do you want to make the system stay in the B&O family ?

Do you want vintage to tone in with the 1900 ? No CD then I think ...

Or are you happy with veteran ... even something like the BeoSound 3000 Family ?

You might need a RIAA (?sp) adapter (sorry if thatโ€™s an adapter adapter ๐Ÿ˜)

I would get a Beocenter 9500 - good tuner - great amplifier that will work with the S45s and the 1900 will connect to it. The CD is fine and it is also remote control and possibly the best designed piece of B&O made - my wife loved it. Can be used to wake you up as has a timer.

My B&O Icons:

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Beoremote-One.png Beoremote-One.png
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Welcome Bill and Happy New Year!

I agree with elephant that the BeoSound 3000 is a very nice device with some true B&O magic in the sliding glass doors, but be aware you would also need an external amplifier to drive the Beovox speakers.

You could consider a BeoMaster 4500 + BeoGram CD 4500: very elegant and versatile as the BeoMaster has built in amplifiers for passive loudspeakers, but also has PowerLink sockets for active BeoLab speakers (not bad for people that get the BeoVirus๐Ÿ˜). This also counts for the 6500/7000 range (called 'pizzaboxes' by some people).

Be aware that these are electronics from the nineties and they suffer from deterioration of some of the electronic components like the capacitors. They can be replaced but it will take a bit of time/money.

Regards, Johan

 

 

 

Location: Netherlands

My B&O Icons:

Beoplay-A1.png Beoplay-A1.png
Beoplay-H95.png Beoplay-H95.png
Beoplay-P6.png Beoplay-P6.png
Beoremote-Beo4.png Beoremote-Beo4.png
Beoremote-One.png Beoremote-One.png
Beosound-5.png Beosound-5.png
Beovision-10.png Beovision-10.png

Peter wrote:

I would get a Beocenter 9500 - good tuner - great amplifier that will work with the S45s and the 1900 will connect to it. The CD is fine and it is also remote control and possibly the best designed piece of B&O made - my wife loved it. Can be used to wake you up as has a timer.

๐Ÿ‘ and the magic in the sliding doors for the tapes and the CDs!

Location: Netherlands

My B&O Icons:

Beoplay-A1.png Beoplay-A1.png
Beoplay-H95.png Beoplay-H95.png
Beoplay-P6.png Beoplay-P6.png
Beoremote-Beo4.png Beoremote-Beo4.png
Beoremote-One.png Beoremote-One.png
Beosound-5.png Beosound-5.png
Beovision-10.png Beovision-10.png

Thanks for the recommendation; the 9500 looks interesting. I looked on the specs page but didn't find the dimensions.  Any help with that?  Also, is it safe to ship an amp/ tuner is properly packaged?  

I have a couple of Beocenter 9500 and 9300 units. They do look great and perform well. I would caution buying them used on Ebay though. The true condition is not always perfect. A common problem is the top and bottom touch panels have almost always come loose by now (deteriorated mounting tape). Those can be fixed but you have to really be careful handling the unit until the panels are secured properly again.

Two B&O receivers from the period of your Beogram are the Beomaster 1900 and 2400. They are just a receiver and don't have a CD player (wasn't invented yet when those receivers were made). The inputs on those allow for a B&O turntable and a tape deck. The tape input can be used for an external CD player. Like the Beocenter units the Beomaster components would likely need restoration at this point in their life.

The BeoCenter 9500 dimensions are found here: https://www.beoworld.org/prod_details.asp?pid=412 76cm wide x 34 deep and 11 high.

Location: Netherlands

My B&O Icons:

Beoplay-A1.png Beoplay-A1.png
Beoplay-H95.png Beoplay-H95.png
Beoplay-P6.png Beoplay-P6.png
Beoremote-Beo4.png Beoremote-Beo4.png
Beoremote-One.png Beoremote-One.png
Beosound-5.png Beosound-5.png
Beovision-10.png Beovision-10.png

Kansas wrote:
Also, is it safe to ship an amp/ tuner is properly packaged?

Shipping a 9000/9300/9500 is a nightmare.  It's heavy, it's big, and it's fragile (not to mention decomposing tape, see above).  But I think they are great, and would buy one local pick-up if you can!

If you must ship it, you (1) kitchen plastic-wrap (or pallet-wrap) around the top and bottom glass to the unit, 3 turns each; (2) insert matchbooks (empty of matches) between the door edges and the center panel; (3) SCREW THE TWO CD-SLED HOLD-DOWN BOLTS INTO THE BOTTOM PANEL HOLES; (4) wrap it in sheet foam (or plastic bag it and spray-foam (low expansion, don't crush) it), into a close-fitting box (cut the box down custom +2" each dimension if you have to); (5) tape the inner box tightly down onto the foam; (6) get an outer box with double-wall D-flute corrugated and some old-fashioned packing peanuts, about 6" larger in all 3 dimensions, and STUFF the packing peanuts in around all sides of the inner box.  (7) Mark it "Fragile" on all sides, and "This Side Up" on top, for all the good it will do...  (If you have a shipper you trust, you can mark it "Non-Conveyable" to keep it off the belts and pay the surcharge.)  (8) Buy the insurance for whatever amount was paid, and take photos while packing, to prove your valor to the obnoxious shipping agents who will try to not pay the insurance after they toss it across the floor.  This custom labor and brand-new boxes make it expensive to ship.  I have the shipping box that my 9500 originally came in, and frankly I wouldn't trust it.

A friend of mine tried to buy one and now has three broken ones to go with the good one.  His previous try, about 10 years ago, was one for two.  If you want an amplifier that's easy to ship, buy a Carver M-400 cube!๐Ÿ˜‚

Kansas wrote:

Also, is it safe to ship an amp/ tuner is properly packaged?  

That depends upon the shipping skills of the seller.  It's a difficult item to ship due to its dimensions and weight (14 kg/30 lbs).  Finding a suitable box would be difficult and might require combining 2 boxes into 1.  LOTS of bubble wrap / styrofoam peanuts would be required.  And the packer would have to be careful that the aforementioned glass panels don't fall off and smash on the floor during packing.  Mark the package 'FRAGILE' or 'GLASS' and insure it.

Aside from that, the 9500 would be a good choice - quality sound and beautiful to look at/operate.  Finding one fully operational and in nice condition might be difficult as well.

 

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