ML Setup

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Dear Friends of BeoWorld!

First a merry Christmas and a happy New Year to all of you!

Moving to a new flat I'd like to setup a ML system. I've already read some threads and within beotech but still have some questions or need someone to confirm my thoughts.
I'd like to link 4 rooms which now are "connected" in line through an empy tube. room one should get three ml sockets 1-3).
At the moment I have got a BS9000 (+BL8000), BS5/BM5 (connected with ML cable to BS9000) and a BW3200 (+BL3) standalone
In new future I'd like to ad a A8 with beolink active - to listen to music from BM5
In far future maybe I'll be able to add a Beovision (ML or NL ???)

So:
I think a Cat7 cable is recommended. A ML-cable has (far) more pins. In this thread

Note that Beoplay A8 has no ML functionality.

Location: Sweden

My B&O Icons:

Beovision-11.png Beovision-11.png
Beosound-Emerge.png Beosound-Emerge.png
Beoremote-One.png Beoremote-One.png
Beoplay-M5.png Beoplay-M5.png
Beoplay-M3.png Beoplay-M3.png
Beoplay-Earset.png Beoplay-Earset.png
Beoplay-Beosound1.png Beoplay-Beosound1.png
Beoplay-A1.png Beoplay-A1.png
f5434964 wrote:

Dear Friends of BeoWorld!

First a merry Christmas and a happy New Year to all of you!

Moving to a new flat I'd like to setup a ML system. I've already read some threads and within beotech but still have some questions or need someone to confirm my thoughts. I'd like to link 4 rooms which now are "connected" in line through an empy tube. room one should get three ml sockets 1-3). At the moment I have got a BS9000 (+BL8000), BS5/BM5 (connected with ML cable to BS9000) and a BW3200 (+BL3) standalone In new future I'd like to ad a A8 with beolink active - to listen to music from BM5 In far future maybe I'll be able to add a Beovision (ML or NL ???)

So: I think a Cat7 cable is recommended. A ML-cable has (far) more pins. In this thread http://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/p/1277/10837.aspx#10837 there is some explanation but I still do not know on which picture to rely on. So please tell me which colors I have to use to set up my sockets. I've also read that some pins would have to be joined/solded togheter... I do not want to risk a electrical hazard that kills my Beosounds.

In room 1 I'd like to setup the BM5 at socket 1, the BS9000 at socket 3, socket 4 empty (maybe a BS3500 later), the BS3200 at socket 5 and a Beolink active with A8 at socket 6. Maybe later on a Beovision in Room 1... Is this possible? Is it possible to listen to music from BM5 in all rooms?

Using a Cat7 cable - is it better to get newish RJxx (don't know which please help) sockets and cables from Steve at Sounds Heavenly (ML on one side and RJ45 on the other side) or to get "original" ML sockets with 16 pins.

Some problems/questions with Powerlink cables which I'd like to direct within the walls in room 1. Newish RJxx sockets are prefered?

Thanks a lot and

best Regards

Elmar

Another comment for clarification: Why do you need a BS3200 when you already have a BS9000? I think it may mess things up with more than one audio master in the system. You could just have speakers there and a Beolink eye to control the sound.

Location: Sweden

My B&O Icons:

Beovision-11.png Beovision-11.png
Beosound-Emerge.png Beosound-Emerge.png
Beoremote-One.png Beoremote-One.png
Beoplay-M5.png Beoplay-M5.png
Beoplay-M3.png Beoplay-M3.png
Beoplay-Earset.png Beoplay-Earset.png
Beoplay-Beosound1.png Beoplay-Beosound1.png
Beoplay-A1.png Beoplay-A1.png

Hello Hiort!

To link an A8 with a Beolink active is a proper way - already discussed by hfat - thanks a lot to him.
I hope it is possible to setup the system I have in mind - why leaving out the BS3200? It's a masterpiece of design; I only would go without it if its not possible due to technical reasons.

And I still do not know witch sockets to use, how to connect them to a cat7 cable?

Best Regards

Elmar 

You have run the cabling from device to device, the old way and you have ml equipment. So use ML cable with ML connectors.

regards,

joost

This should answer most of your questions.

Look at page 29 for the different wires in a ML Cable.

Use Cat7 cables if you please.

MM

 

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

Millemissen wrote:

This should answer most of your questions.

 

 

Look at page 29 for the different wires in a ML Cable.

Use Cat7 cables if you please.

MM

 

 

Hello MM!

Thanks for this hint; I've already read the handbook;
 I think cat7 cables fit for future - maybe sometime NL will replace ML?!? 
But:
Cat7 does have 8 different wires whereas on page 29 ML counts 9 different wires plus ground (three wires); so which wires are to use?

Best Regards

Elmar 

f5434964 wrote:

Dear Friends of BeoWorld!

First a merry Christmas and a happy New Year to all of you!

Moving to a new flat I'd like to setup a ML system. I've already read some threads and within beotech but still have some questions or need someone to confirm my thoughts. I'd like to link 4 rooms which now are "connected" in line through an empy tube. room one should get three ml sockets 1-3). At the moment I have got a BS9000 (+BL8000), BS5/BM5 (connected with ML cable to BS9000) and a BW3200 (+BL3) standalone In new future I'd like to ad a A8 with beolink active - to listen to music from BM5 In far future maybe I'll be able to add a Beovision (ML or NL ???)

So: I think a Cat7 cable is recommended. A ML-cable has (far) more pins. In this thread http://archivedforum2.beoworld.org/forums/p/1277/10837.aspx#10837 there is some explanation but I still do not know on which picture to rely on. So please tell me which colors I have to use to set up my sockets. I've also read that some pins would have to be joined/solded togheter... I do not want to risk a electrical hazard that kills my Beosounds.

In room 1 I'd like to setup the BM5 at socket 1, the BS9000 at socket 3, socket 4 empty (maybe a BS3500 later), the BS3200 at socket 5 and a Beolink active with A8 at socket 6. Maybe later on a Beovision in Room 1... Is this possible? Is it possible to listen to music from BM5 in all rooms?

Using a Cat7 cable - is it better to get newish RJxx (don't know which please help) sockets and cables from Steve at Sounds Heavenly (ML on one side and RJ45 on the other side) or to get "original" ML sockets with 16 pins.

Some problems/questions with Powerlink cables which I'd like to direct within the walls in room 1. Newish RJxx sockets are prefered?

Thanks a lot and

best Regards

Elmar

The only advice I can give is to Star wire to a central point.

This will give you the best chance of future proofing.

Spur wiring is not recommended.

f5434964 wrote:

Dear Friends of BeoWorld!

First a merry Christmas and a happy New Year to all of you!

Moving to a new flat I'd like to setup a ML system. I've already read some threads and within beotech but still have some questions or need someone to confirm my thoughts.
I'd like to link 4 rooms which now are "connected" in line through an empy tube. room one should get three ml sockets 1-3).
At the moment I have got a BS9000 (+BL8000), BS5/BM5 (connected with ML cable to BS9000) and a BW3200 (+BL3) standalone
In new future I'd like to ad a A8 with beolink active - to listen to music from BM5
In far future maybe I'll be able to add a Beovision (ML or NL ???)

So:
I think a Cat7 cable is recommended. A ML-cable has (far) more pins. In this thread link there is some explanation but I still do not know on which picture to rely on. So please tell me which colors I have to use to set up my sockets. I've also read that some pins would have to be joined/solded togheter...
I do not want to risk a electrical hazard that kills my Beosounds.

In room 1 I'd like to setup the BM5 at socket 1, the BS9000 at socket 3, socket 4 empty (maybe a BS3500 later), the BS3200 at socket 5 and a Beolink active with A8 at socket 6.
Maybe later on a Beovision in Room 1...

Is this possible? Is it possible to listen to music from BM5 in all rooms?

Using a Cat7 cable - is it better to get newish RJxx (don't know which please help) sockets and cables from Steve at Sounds Heavenly (ML on one side and RJ45 on the other side) or to get "original" ML sockets with 16 pins.

Some problems/questions with Powerlink cables which I'd like to direct within the walls in room 1. Newish RJxx sockets are prefered?

Thanks a lot and

best Regards

Elmar 

 

As StÜrrock said, Cat7 star wired is also my recommendation. For ML and PL (maybe PL direct cabling if it`s too long...).

BS5 as NO AUDIOMASTER with BS9000 (audiomaster) and BS3200 as local audiosystem with A.OPT5 and N.MUSIC compatible and BL active with L.OPT5 should work.

Stefan

 

Hi elmar.

I have just moved house and I have ran 4cat7 and 1cat5 to each tv point plus 2coax. I have also ran a master link cable to each location too. They Are all then routed back to one location which is in my loft where I will be putting a rack and also that is where I will be putting my sky boxes and controlling via the puc using beo4 or beo5. system consists of 3x bv7-32 1xbv6-26 plus a beosound 9000 and beolab8000s. and a Panasonic tv in the main room which I will control sky using a magic eye down one of the coaxes and will send it back using hdmi ballon via the cat7. I am also using hdmi balloons on two of the bv7-32 so that I get sky in hd.

Anyway my point is I ran the cat 7 to future proof myself it wasn't cheap and at the moment only three of the 20 cat7 cables are actually getting used and nne are for audio they are only for hd. I did plan on running my master link down cat 7 but that never ended up happening as the cost of buying the leads (cat7-master link) made no sense as I had a roll of master link ad I ended up with a tidier installation.

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