Brent wrote:

...the TV must power up, raise up on the table stand and turn the screen on before any sound is released. I have a pair of Beolab 9's attached to the TV and so I can understand that the TV powers up, but it is all the extra activity it does that concerns me. This didn't occur with the BV7.  

Next question is the blu-ray player. I purchased a Panasonic DMP-BDT370GN. there is no PUC code for this so I selected Generic Panasonic Bluray. I have setup the bluray to perform 4K upscaling but do I connect it to HDMI input 1 or any of the other inputs. As I understand, only HDMI 1 supports a 4K input.

Your previous BV7 did eaxacly the same - mabey you did not notice it that much.

You probably had set it to not move, when playing 'only audio'.

The tv with its processing of the sound etc was with the BV7 the center/brain of your setup - and so is it with the Avant.

One difference is that the speaker is hidden and has to be 'released'. From what other people tell (in other threads) this is because the WiSA sender is located behind the grille.  Some people feel annoyed by this - others don't mind. Has been discussed several times here before.

The screen turns on - but dimmed - because it is used for the feedback/the infos of e.g. connected sources. Again, some aren't pleased with this, others welcome it, because they want to see 'what is going on'. However it is easy turn turn it off - just use the P.Mute command.

i know a lot of hardcore BV7 users favorite having the display on the (right) screen side and the screen unused/blank, but using the panel gives room for extended informations. I guess that having the display on the right side of the panel was a pretty expensive solution - and it made the screen overall bigger.

To me the behaviour of the Avant is no big deal - maybe you will get used to it.

As for the 4K upscaling. I would prefer to let the Avant do the upscaling. It probably does a better job.

Leave the HDMI 1 for a future native 4K device.

MM

As I am very happy with how my Masterlink system works, but have also been considering new NL products, this thread is very interesting. With respect to point number 5 above, that is very disappointing. As for point 3, there is one exception to the BV10 not displaying sources. If one switches from a video source to an audio source, it will display the audio source on the BV10 screen briefly. Also, switching audio sources after that will, at least for some period of time,  cause the new selected source to be briefly displayed on the BV10 screen.

Hi Räuber,

you have made your point (which I already knew).

As I wrote - some like it so, others different!

In a NL setup there is no 'audio mode' - there are sources!

If you have a NL multiroom setup, you have the sources local too e.g. on an A6 or an Essence (2nd gen).

Combining NL and ML (using the converter) may bring about some limitation, if you compare this to a pure ML setup. However a NL multiroom setup is way more flexible, because you can use one source in one or more rooms and you can use another source in one or more rooms etc. etc. (I am sure you have seen the video about this). You can use the sources across the network - you are not limited to having a master and a slave/link device situation.

In most cases it even doesn't require pulling cables all around your house!

You are used to a specific behaviour in your household, which might be totally ok.

But that doesn't mean, that a NL multiroom setup in many other cases will be the first choice.

By the way - to 3: I don't agree with you on that.

MM

Raeuber wrote:

Hello Razlaw,

 

 

regarding point 3, you are absolutely correct.

 

 

And don't forget this point with a NL-BV:

 

 

It's not possible to listen to a source of NL-BV in linkrooms if you use another source in mainroom. This is a key feature for me with my BV 7. On a NL-BV only one single source can be active. When my wife is e.g. watching TV in mainroom, I can in my two linkrooms:

 

 

1. Listen to airplayed music from Apple TV,

 

2. Listen to music from Chromecast audio (Spotify and TuneIn radio),

 

3. Listen to CD from internal Blueray player,

 

4. Listen to radio from settop box connected to BV 7,

 

5. Watching Blueray or DVD from internal Blueray player,

 

6. Watching recordings from harddisk of settop box.

 

 

This is real multiroom. With a NL-BV you can only listen to the same source actually used in mainroom or any source if NL-BV is in standby.

 

 

That's why it is absolutely no option for me replacing my BV 7 by a NL-BV!

 

 

Regards

 

 

Räuber

Very good points. I recently discussed adding some NL products with a dealer. The advice was 1. Apple routers are not good enough, have a commercial grade home network installed. 2. If possible, hard wire all of the NL products together instead of using wifi. 3. Consider using my current ML products as stand alone items, not connected to the ML or NL.  I am sure at some point I will venture into the NL world. But right now it seems like a lot of effort and expense with some diminishing returns, unless there is an overriding desire or need for a new Beovision.

Razlaw wrote:

Very good points. I recently discussed adding some NL products with a dealer. The advice was 1. Apple routers are not good enough, have a commercial grade home network installed. 2. If possible, hard wire all of the NL products together instead of using wifi. 3. Consider using my current ML products as stand alone items, not connected to the ML or NL. I am sure at some point I will venture into the NL world. But right now it seems like a lot of effort and expense with some diminishing returns, unless there is an overriding desire or need for a new Beovision.