Magnificent sound REproduction

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I had a listen to a pair of B&O beolab 5's today. It was the Vienna Philharmonic, playing Tchaikovsky's symphony no.5...

Absolutely breathtaking!

Never ever have i heard speakers emanate sound like this, and the cost is surprisingly competitive! Wow wow wow. 
Why aren't more people talking about these marvellous machines, these can't be far from a the title of world best can they?

I'm going to buy a pair. I've always been an admirer of Bang & Olufsen for their beautiful products, but i had no idea they offered such serious HIFI.

I think this just may be the beginning of an obssesion... :O

So glad that you liked the 5s so much. If they are within you reach, go for it
As for the start of an obsession, Be careful! you'll soon be as ga-ga as the rest of us
Welcome to the forum----tell all your friends 😁

Andy T.

welcome on the forum.

you just described on of the main problem of b&o: most people think it is only about design, but it is mainly about sound- and picture-quality

The BeoLab 5s have been ignored by the regular audiophile crowd because they run counter to everything they go by.

You're supposed to have separate monobloque amplifiers for speakers at this quality level; you're supposed to run a signal cable to the amps -- then a loudspeaker cable to the units.
From an audiophile's viewpoint, the BL5s are tweakproof.
In all fairness, the fact that they do not have Balanced IN takes quite a few potential audiophiles out of the equation. They simply do not feel comfortable with hooking up to the standard Line IN RCA connector. And feeding them an SP/DIF signal, straight from the source, also takes some of the fun out of being an audiophile.

BL5s are simply too plug-and-play for audiophile comfort. I had a pair examined by one of the world's foremost sound engineers. He laughed out loud when he saw the signal cable -- but he sat down to listen once they got going, he was quite impressed with them, but never got comfortable with the fact that he couldn't be 100% certain both loudspeakers were at the exact same volume setting, when run from a non-B&O source. Since there's no visual level feedback you can't really be absolutely certain -- unless you push both speakers to maximum volume, and then take down the signal you feed them -- but that's not ideal.

So - audiophiles are missing out on an incredible experience. But it's fun to set them in front of a pair and watch their jaw slide open. 

I'm in the final stages of planning my music room, where a pair of BL5s will take pride of place. I'll be feeding them via the SP/DIF digital connection, but routing the signal through a line-level and equalizer unit from my various sources. Can't wait! These speakers are world class marvellous. Sheer delight for the ears and soul.

 

Thanks, it is very exciting to find a brilliant product such as the beolab 5, with the finesse and style that B&O offers.

That's so interesting, how the sometimes-stubborn audiophile mind works with that kind of thing, but i am wondering, soundproof, why go through all of that hassle when B&O provide components to drive the speakers the way they are intended (such as that 'winged media centre')?

Another interesting point of conversation regarding the way B&O products are percieved to myself and others. Strangely I agree with both the critics and the fans.

I have also heard the beolab 6000's, the 8000's and the 4000's where i would admire the sheer style and volume they bring to the table, but for pure, differentiated sound quality, i would not pay the amount they cost... the stunning design and build quality however would seduce me.

The beolab 5's are very different, dare i say, elite in my opinion and they are a hell of an acheivement. I look forward to seeing this technology trickle down to the other beolabs mentioned above, when they are suceeded. The technology is already in the Audi A8 and winning acclaim, so there you go eh! 

Hopefully more journalists and audio enthusiasts will begin to realise the potential and credibility of Bang & Olufsen. I certainly now realise it! 

PS I've read a few articles... and Bose should not be mentioned when comparing B&O


Interesting thread. The only problem I have with B&O as an audiophile brand is that the source devices are not as good as the BL5. We still await the Beosound 5, or whatever it will be called, which is supposed to be of a similar quality to the BL5. In the meantime,  a Beogram CD7000 could be the answer!

My B&O Icons:

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Could not agree more.πŸ˜‰There is Bose dealer close to where I work. Had a look at some of the Bose products. The finish on them is so cheap IMO very plastic. No look of quality at all.

 

Craig😁 

The old beogram cd7000 is better than the newest cd players?! Wow i presumed that the quality of the cd players avalable at the moment was as good if not better... 

The sound quality of those lifestyle sysyems from Bose, is horrific (when the price is realised).

Bose is illusion over reality, and they play a pretty good trick when you consider the size of the speakers. But put them next to comparably priced "proper" speakers and you're in for an entirely different experience. Yet Bose's positioning is a worthwhile one - to create audio systems that blend in unobtrusively, while providing sound.

I don't like their sound, not involving enough. Get the same experience I get when I compare a compressed mp3 vs. uncompressed or lossless. Yes, the music's there, but not all there, by a serious margin.

Peter's making a reference to the fact that the Beogram CD 7000 (and 6500) have an S/PDIF digital out connector in the back, which you can hook directly to BL5s. Very few of today's CD transports match the quality of earlier CD-players - (there are companies that build their own, but most are using "off the rack" units that also double as DVD-players, multi-format this and that. Audiophiles are going hunting among older items, looking for equipment to refurbish.)
And Peter's right, the present B&O sources aren't at benchmark level for audiophile reproduction.

In the German Forum at the previous BeoWorld there was a lengthy discussion of how one could upgrade both the Beosystem 7000 amp and the CD-player. I'm going to have that done to my units.

The "secret" is to find units that produce the sound you are most pleased with - it's a very subjective thing (mildly put). Whether new or old doesn't matter, as long as they help you go deep diving into all the music you've been missing out on! πŸ™‚

Don't forget the BL3s in your encomium to the BL5s. The BL3s are surprisingly versatile and rich speakers -- I use them as headphones, absolutely brilliant.


 

It's interesting to see the comments about the CD7000, because I'd have to agree. When listening through my CD7000, BM6500 & B&W DM7s, there's something far more musical than modern B&O. The sound stage also sounds more natural in a really hard-to-describe way. It just seems to ram the music down your throat, in comparison to the modern B&O stuff which often sounds absolutely incredible and technically in a completely different league to my system, but somehow the music doesn't seem like the focus. I guess this is almost all to do with the source, as ICE Power amps and the speakers are definitely miles better than what I own (although I still reckon my DM7s would give BeoLab 9s a good run for their money when it comes to soundstage, tonality and low-end kick!).
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