aint sure if the july prize draw indeed took place; kindly enlighten; probably going further we should have draw sample representative of each country or location; this would enhance chances of wining for members like me who do not feature in the invoke set. moderators could you throw up how many members from the indian sub-contineent
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It beggars belief, doesn't it?
I guess you can please all the people some of the time. and some of the people all the time but not all the people all the time.
PS, I wear glasses and haven't won for ages, it's so unfair!!😕
Every gold member has the same chances to win, wherever he lives. I think you misunderstood something in the rules and regulations.
I understand the premise - it would be more fun if all areas of the world saw prizewinners each month. However some areas have very few members - I don't think you are suggesting that the same person gets a prize each month! As it is, all gold members have an equal chance of winning every prize. It is possible, though very improbable, that one person could win all the prizes one month. The fact that there are relatively few members means that your chances of winning are very high for this type of draw. However the likeliest outcome is I am afraid that you win nothing. If this was not the case, the prizes would have to be Smarties!
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i am statisician and work for Nielsen India (world leaders in market research); if you can reveal the mechanics of the draw i can further add to it by being more scientific
Okay...
On the day of the draw, as near to the actual draw time as possible, i download an Excel spreadsheet with every current Gold Member on it. Each Gold Member has an individual number on the left hand side of the spreadsheet, and the members get nearer to the top of the spreadsheet as their remaining membership shortens. So, in effect - if you are due up for renewal the day after the draw you will probably be number 1 through to 5 or 6, and after renewing you will be around 550 or so. i hope that's clear.
I then go to random.org and request a number sequence starting with 1 and ending in the individual number of the last member.. let's say 572. I ask it to select 10 random numbers, one at a time, between 1 and 572 inclusive. This way, every member has a fresh chance of winning as the numbers are chosen automatically, one at a time, between 1 and 572.
I am truly sorry if this appears an underhand or 'fixed' way of doing it, but i'm no professional mathematician or statistician like yourself Pattabhiraman and simply thought this was a pretty good way of doing it. If it makes you feel better, we have one Brazilian member - and he won a few months ago!!
As i mentioned before, if someone else wants to draw the numbers - or indeed do the draw, it would certainly be a reduction in my already full workload! I do it because i really enjoy it and it gives something back to the loyal members that support the site financially, not to distribute prizes to members in countries with the most members or such like.
I'm not offended by all this - just to make it clear. Everyone has the right to ask how it's done, but i am at a complete loss as to how to make it more fair or transparent.
Lee
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What is there to be more scientific about?
There are around 500-600 ( since I dont know the exact figure let's call it x) gold members and each has been allocated a number. Each month a random number generator on the net is used to select 10 random numbers and the corresponding members win the prizes. Simple!
Also simple.
If you don't agree don't join.
Also simple.
I pay my £30 to help fund the site. I renewed my subscription to help fund the site. I would not care if there was no draw, I would still pay to help fund the site.
I am sure that using statistics you can prove that you should have won every month but that's statistics for you!
Rant over, simple.
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