DAMN GUYS!!! Discontinuing the BL6002 is like Porsche taking the 911 out of their range!!!

Along with the BL8002, probably one of the most elegant, iconic designs ever.

I hated the BL12 when I saw it bling and cheap looking. I was horrified. And it seems to be under performing. Seems as though B&O has an identity crisis and has lost direction.

Damn Guys, we are loosing the iconic side of B&O designs - BS3200, 9000 etc. I say thank goodness we have the BV11 for design AND performance!

Whilst I could never fit BL6002 or 8000 in my apartment, my dream house would always of had those!

Yeah I don't get it too. Like why are the TVs in B&O priced so much higher than their stereo equipment when it is real the stereos that get the general public interested. I know that the panels are really expensive for B&O to buy in thus thus the escalated price so why not just put more focus on the stereos where everything can be made in house? B&W seems to be doing really quite well focusing on just stereo and their ipod docks, pseudo surround bars and headphones aren't even all that. It's the reference range of loudspeakers and their reputation in the audiophile circle that gained them respect with the public to get them to buy into the brand. it  seems the reverse is true with B&O lol... The entry level products are beginning to present great value whereas the higher priced range are merely gimmicky underperforming bling bling pieces. Like WTF! I like bling but I want performance that goes along with the looks. Don't create products for a certain target market because you never know..... Everybody knows the Steve Jobs story right?! Make the best products and then convince the public that they need them. 

The classic line is definitely more neutral sounding than the ALT range for sure except for the Beolab 5s of course. The ALT technology is a very hard technology to work around to make the whole system sound neutral. Consumers these days know good sound. B&O is overestimating the power of Bling because even my older sister who is like a casual music listener preferred my junior active ATC20 system to her B&W Nautilus 803 system. Most people can discern sound quality B&O!  No women or guys I know about failed to not hear differences between systems. For some reason they know about distortion, coloration, impulse response inherently. They just to be made aware! And I was recently made a convert when to believing in quality interconnects when I upgraded the headphone cables on my Sennheiser 800s. I really didn't expect such a major difference. The old cables cracked so I got affordably priced, way shorter and correctly terminated replacement cables and guess what the sound quality changed dramatically! The trebles used to be a little peaky and the background noise was a little more apparent with the old cables but now I feel I have nothing to complain about the headphone setup anymore. My point is people can discern B&O! 

Case in point, why do B&O loudspeaker hum so much when the rca interconnect is not connected to a source? Because your speakers are terribly sensitive to micro phonics! Consider balanced amplification and wiring topolgy and perhaps that will greatly boost the performance of your loudspeaker greatly with a small increase in production cost. All just abandon that and go digital throughout. Extreme high quality properly executed Dacs are available on the cheap these days and you get the option of putting a DSP to flatten your phase and frequency response of your loudspeakers too. I guess you can do away the playmaker and create individual external playmaker plugin modules for individual speakers. And when digital technology improves again you can get encourage your customers to upgrade again!  This way you can totally retain your traditional active amplification topology with the added boost in DSP. And maybe the option of costly upgrading the internals too! Another money making strategy! B&O obviously built their reputation on long lasting active loudspeaker range so why not exploit it to their fullest potential? 

B&O can do something like the latest Elipson active loudspeaker but without the horribly limiting Kleer technology. 24bit/196khz streaming might not be that prevalent yet but it is great marketing! 

I grew up want to own B&O systems but now I feel like I am forcing myself to buy things from B&O out of sentiment. 

Again.... Don't abandon your old range in favor of the new ALT range because the classic line have qualities that most high end systems dream of having. The aluminum enclosures were really paying off contributing to portraying great soundscapes but don't stop there. And refine your icepower topology further so that the top end will be kinder to the ears. 

Excellent posts guys!

I feel like a huge bit of B&O Soul is getting lost. Most of the new stuff isn't very iconic. Who's gonna cry the day when the Beolab 12's will be discontinued. Not me. Beosound 5? Not me. Beoplay V1? Can't wait. 😎

Surely the innards of the BL 8000/6000 could have been upgraded. 

Sorry about the grammatical errors guys. They have been horrid. But Beoworld removed the option to revising the posts made. 

wonderfulelectric wrote:

Sorry about the grammatical errors guys. They have been horrid. But Beoworld removed the option to revising the posts made. 

You can still edit your posts. 

bayerische wrote:

wonderfulelectric wrote:

Sorry about the grammatical errors guys. They have been horrid. But Beoworld removed the option to revising the posts made. 

You can still edit your posts. 

Oh how? The edit button has all but vanished. 

I think guys it's because we are in a totally new direction and generation with the way most people are now using systems. I think it's clear that the days of separate TVs and Hifis are long gone except for the die hard.

Even 10 years ago when i first started at University I saw the change in the kids -zero sound systems / hifis in their rooms - just laptops and little speakers with a sub! I'm guilty of it too now, I use my MacBook for everything!!!!!

One brand that I loved for their reliability, performance and consistency was TECHNICS. That brand does not even exist anymore. When asked why, their CEO said no one was buying hifs anymore - instead opting for home cinema systems. It is strange that B&O was of course, noted for it's hifi range in the past, but now their strongest range is their TVs and of course their loudspeakers. Their hifi range is shocking BS5 etc. But I guess that is the way it has gone & i'm sure a BV11 with BL speakers with Apple TV streaming iTunes files would sound pretty decent in terms of hifi. 

I think we need to except that audio, video, new technology have all come together and in a way, it is pretty fab!

wonderfulelectric wrote:

bayerische wrote:

wonderfulelectric wrote:

Sorry about the grammatical errors guys. They have been horrid. But Beoworld removed the option to revising the posts made. 

You can still edit your posts. 

Oh how? The edit button has all but vanished. 

It should be under the "more" button.

Yes surely 20 years of production of the BL6000, they must be pretty cheap to make right now??? Even if they were available to special order?