Is the old B&O DNA gone forever?! (Probably a rant)

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Analog,

Well yes of course some things are still nice. I did not mean to make it sound like everything done by B&O today is bad. It’s just that I feel that that general amazing ambience is gone. It feels like the heart of it all is lacking. 

I for example really like the Moment and I love BL90. I think the Moment and the 90 goes very well together as well. But it’s still that metal feeling missing. I dont like for example that the BL9 and BL20 are covered with boring fabric(yes the BL90 are as well). That obsessive fabric ammount for me is a good example of lost design. 

Look at BL4000, BL8000 and BL1 for example. Beaituful sharp finish with amazing luster in the fabric, beautiful colours and a generally more complete over all design. 

BL18 are a good follower to the BL8000, but I hate the foot. It doesnt have that perfect symmetry the BL8000 have. I feel B&O really should have left the foot/base just as square and big as the 8000 one. 

Besides that it’s a top design on them. 

 

I am waiting for that unit as well. Honestly nothing after the different ”Ouverture” and BS9000 models have been even close to setting the iconic bar as high as they did

Beojeff,

Haha I was actually going to suggest in me previous comment to have the remote as a pendant on a necklas. I am rrally happy that this thread made you take it out again to use it. 

When I started this thread I wasnt really sure that anyone would care to comment in it, since I was thinking as well that I was just complaining and bitching. 

But it makes me really happy to see that some of the fine people here on Beoworld actually agreed with me. I dont feel as bitter anymore 😂

 

Regarding the prince albert, consider how fanatic we B&O lovers are, I would not be surprised! Haha

Band’oh,

I am happy to hear that you share opinion as well in this matter👍🏻

I was hoping that the thread would kick of with some amazing new ideas for fun products. Thats why I wrote my two cents in my initial text. 

Would be amazing if we actually came up with some things here that would catch the eye of the R&D over at the B&O HQ!

I cant imagine a better place than this community for the R&D people to look at for inspiration and ideas. The wealth of interesting threads here are amazing. People showing there lineups, their homes, discussions about products and improvements.. All B&O ever could want is here. I have never seen any other brand have it’s own forum like this one. And honestly the ideas B&O could get here would cost most other brands millions to scrape together in market research and focus groups.   

 

Only thing what we ask is working products....

Beojeff,

Yes the LC1 is amazing, and so is the LC2. I prefer the design on that one. I do not really think(sadly)  B&O willl go back to light control again though, considering what philips have done with their Hue system, and the options Lutron gives for total control. And all other brands with options of using IFTTT.

But I can say for sure that, if B&O released a new version of the LC, controllable from the app and remote, I would get that in a heartbeat. 

B&O should go back to a total-concept again, control of the entire house, and not leave some parts of that to other brands. 

Luckily enough I have a couple of LC to enjoy, and I would never get rid of them for all the cheddar in Somerset!

Imagine an LC3, with app conectivity, control of both LED and normal lights, and why not use them as a WiFi extender as well at the same time!

Koning,

Haha well that is indeed the base of it all. And most certainly NOT to much to ask for!

But as I wrote before, when a brand depends on other brands, other products and other product standards, well that’s just a thing that invites to problems and complications. 

I assume some of the things you are unhappy with would be with the new app and how the speakers and units are having problems connecting with esch other and working together in a multiroom setup?

Or are you having problems with the products themselves? Such as internal functions?

One thing that B&O recently released is the kit to convert any old beovox speaker into a modern bluetooth speakers. 

B&O really deserves credits for making something like that!

No other brands out there have (to my knowledge) done anything similar to that. To let the buyers of the brands products go back and make their old stuff up to date. Usually nowadays it’s all about buy buy buy new stuff as often as possible and discard the old things, and even throw out the things which are not so old.

Most companies release a similar product to the one previous year, with just a small update(which they of course could have implemented from the beginning) but they want to sell more and have people change things every year. Of course to keep a steady turn over on their income and get more money from withholding goodies here and there. 

I do feel that B&O still thinks about the concept of long term quality in many ways. For customers to keep their things for many many years, and I salute them and tip my hat as well for that. 

This latest thing is the perfect example of a company philosophy of enjoying the old things they know we love. 

Correct me if I am wrong please, but I do think it’s called BeoCreate...?

No,not the fault of other brands.

Cheap hardware with bad software for a premium price.

 

Koning,

Well it depends on what the problem is. 

If you for example have a problem with getting multiroom function to work, that is just as much depending on your router as the B&O app.

Thanks for kicking off a good discussion!

Re BeoCreate: actually it was started internally by a tiny young team (interns actually - fans of B&O first and employees second) asking the question 'if Peter & Svend were starting from fresh today, what would they do, what company would they build?'

You could say that the BeoCreate 4-Channel Amplifier (out first product) is our 'Eliminator', connecting the speakers people already have to modern technology that makes it easy to use.

https://www.hifiberry.com/BeoCreate

We've just finished off the manuals for stereo CX50 & CX100 too :-) which was a big request, and the future roadmap will also be community driven too, because we believe that is what Peter & Svend would be doing here in 2018+

Its not all noslatgia & heritage though, we also have some cool future facing experiments happening using 'new to B&O manufacturing' techniques - some high-tech and some high artisanal. Essentially we are reusing what we are learning and creating via ReCreate to make new beautiful experiences that have B&O DNA at the heart, but that turn the mass-manufacturing status quo totally upside down.

Cheers

Lyle

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