I’d go for the BV11!

Of course the 11 will be older - but you can avoid the Android cr*p.

And you can use the saved money for a good bluray player and the ATV4 box ;-)

P.S. I am quite sure, that others might give you a different advice - which is fine.

In the end it’s your user habits and needs, that will decide.

MM

I Agree 100% with Millemissen: Avoid the Beovision 14 with its Android crap! 😕

Go for the Beovision 11.

The saved money could be used for a usable Android TV system like Nvidia Shield or a Kodi-Mediacenter PC or a good Blu-Ray player. 

thanks guys for your replies

i thought all the android crap was solved though?  

I would go for the BV11, if you do not fancy the nice frets that go with BV14. I have a BV11-46 as well as a Samsung UHD -65.

I´m still amazed how nice the picture on the BV11 looks.

Hiort, i also think the PQ is nice on the 11

Another Q

If you already have a BV11 and then buy a BV14 and then got a BeoSystem 4 - would the menus etc look like the BV11 on the BV14? 

The BV14 frets also fit on the BV11 (after Mk2) as it has the magnets.  Obviously  on the 40 and 55 models 

Definitely the 11 for the following reasons :

1. The software issues are largely down to the inherent instability of Android TV. Browse the Sony forums and read the AV reviewers experience with Android equipped Bravia's. The issues are too similar to be a coincidence - so i feel there is little B&O can do. 

2. The 14 has a worse panel tech than the 11. Not all backlit panels are better than edge lit screens. The 14 has global dimming, which causes huge problems for dark scenes in movies and TV. I had a 14 for 9 months, and i found it unwatchable for those types of scenes. The Avant (pre Android) that i exchanged it for is better in those instances. I found this aspect of the 14 simply unacceptable. 

3. In general the Avant i have, which should be broadly similar to the 11, is also excellent in general use - the image is less aggressive, but thats a good thing. I watch a lot of sport and even there there Avant (11) is more natural than the more aggressive 14, while still being pretty sharp with HD content.

4. The 11 loses 4K capability, but hell if i notice much difference (or any at all) between (streamed) 4K content on the Avant (or 11 i would suggest) and regular HD.  Its HDR that makes the difference, the extra resolution is insignificant - BluRays on the Avant (11) are still very good.

5. The B&O OS on the 11 works perfectly, never an issue.

6. The sound on the 11 is slightly better than the 14 - the power rating of the 14's audio is a touch lower i believe. 

I miss the design of the 11/14 now that mine is gone, but functionality trumps design in the end to me.

Thank you Sandy, appreciate the time you took to respond.  

I have an Android Sony A1 OLED and i haven't had any issues.  This is version 7.  I think B&O Android is version 5.1 - so maybe it's that version (perhaps) 

I am also familiar with the BV11 OS as i have the Avant Mk1 and after the first software update there hasn't been any issues.  

I didn't know about the panel differences, however the tech video i watched on the 14 shows that the speakers are exactly the same, and I thought when i listened to an 11 that it sounded brilliant.  

I mainly watch NF and Foxtel (Sky for our British friends) 

Hmm, interesting question - dont quite know.

The Beosystem 4 only has 1 HDMI out, but i dont know what happens with the Monitor Control ports on the back.

I had 2 BV's, one old OS and one Android OS (when i had a 14) - but both were connected to an HDMI matrix, so i still saw the whole 14 UI (Android TV part and B&O settings part). 

Also connecting a 4K BV14 to a BS4 - not sure how that will work, as only internal BV14 4K content will work - the BS4 wont pass any 4K through.

I'd really steer clear of the 14, there's is no real gain versus the numerous downsides vs the 11.

I'd also think about whether a BS4 makes sense going forward, given its not 4K HDR capable. 

I have one as part of my 12-65, so that was less an active choice.

I generally blow off HDR as something i don't care about now, but it is proliferating steadily now, so my not caring may not last beyond the next couple of years.