Wading through old posts, I can see a few are still happy with their Beosound 5 and Moments but many express their complaints/concerns of how incomplete the products are, how B&O are plagued by perpetual software and design shortcomings and a feeling that they all lack the 'magic' of older audio systems (see thread on which system people would last lose). The insolvable issue is combining moving glass and aluminium with modern audio which is completely file driven not relying on a physical format. As much as we harp about how "Jensen and Lewis could have done it better"...I don't think they could. Lewis in an interview himself said as much. Furthermore, software problems and NAS/router incompatibility issues is rife whether it be Naim, Linn, etc... Given these two almost insurmountable hurdles is it time we accepted that stand alone audio systems are done and dusted. A big part of me does want to accept this but I may be fooling myself with wishful thinking.
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Is it time B&O gave up on making audio systems?
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Given these two almost insurmountable hurdles is it time we accepted that stand alone audio systems are done and dusted. A big part of me does want to accept this but I may be fooling myself with wishful thinking.
What do you suggest instead - for listening to music, then?
MM
Location: Flensborg————Danmark
Given these two almost insurmountable hurdles is it time we accepted that stand alone audio systems are done and dusted. A big part of me does want to accept this but I may be fooling myself with wishful thinking.What do you suggest instead - for listening to music, then?
MM
Something made by Linn or B&W no doubt...
Something made by Linn or B&W no doubt...
LOL 😂
MM
Location: Flensborg————Danmark
Linn no thanks. B&W no thanks. The point I'm trying to make is that neither Bs5 nor Moment have pressed our buttons since the gear from the 70s, 80s and 90s and perhaps we are expecting the impossible. The magical audio system I yearn for may not be feasible. Perhaps I and some of us need to reorientate our expectations in this day and age. Perhaps the Moment (with a few more software fixes) is as good as it gets. I don't think Lewis or Jensen knew how to fix this. I suppose the big problem from a design perspective is that the Bs5 and Moment so clearly don't look or feel right in the way a Bs9000 did but I have absolutely no idea what a file and streaming audio system could or should look like.
A encore device with airplay and touchscreen that 'dissapears' and cleans it'self in the procces. That would be magical.
I thought that for a while but tapping and swiping just does not compare to the physicality of physical media for me. The best idea I could summon was music on crystals that have to be loaded into pods like superman in the ice cavern! http://news.filehippo.com/2013/07/superman-memory-crystals-can-store-up-to-360tb/
Have bought the Moment - i enjoy the device and even my wife (she really didn't like it in store and there were a lot of discussions) loves it and would not trade it in for something else.
So....., I don't think, that B&O should stop producing audio systems
I'd actually consider a Beosound 5 if it were still being supported in the way of hardware for the long term, and the fact that it isn't netlink also puts a damper because, for me, the BS5 does tick all the boxes. It has that "magic" and uniqueness we all have come to expect from B&O, and it is an all in one system that doesn't have to rely on other boxes (NAS, computers, etc). But again, no streaming, airplay, bluetooth, etc. Basically a fancy windows box, but SOOOO sexy!
I'd actually consider a Beosound 5 if it were still being supported in the way of hardware for the long term, and the fact that it isn't netlink also puts a damper because, for me, the BS5 does tick all the boxes. It has that "magic" and uniqueness we all have come to expect from B&O, and it is an all in one system that doesn't have to rely on other boxes (NAS, computers, etc). But again, no streaming, airplay, bluetooth, etc. Basically a fancy windows box, but SOOOO sexy!
I love the BeoSound 5. To me, it makes me feel that my music is accessible and "organized." This fits perfectly with the old MasterLink. Something that I like about MasterLink is the sense how how everything fits together. The new NL seems to have a concept that isn't quite as organized, but one which I know is the way of the future. We're seeing a jumble in terms of B&O products that each have their own connection to our iPhones, Airplay, and various media servers. To me, this lacks the cohesion of the old ML. I'm likely sounding old and dated myself. Kids these days probably view music in a very different way and expect the individual connectivity of the new B&O products. I would just like to see it all "pull together" at some point. I think that how B&O differentiates itself is with its algorithms to help us select music. I do think that we'll be seeing a completely different sort of interface in the very near future -- one where voice commands will be used to select the music to play -- completely doing away with the traditional remote control.
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