You’re correct, as long as your sources are digital, you don’t need a matrix. I’m using Apple TV and a NAS, everything is working perfectly. I add that with this and an iPad, you can resume a video anywhere with the iPad, where you left it on the tv!

yep, i tend to agree that they are less obvious these days.

I think the use case is quite narrow. I have a lounge set up (cable box, Apple TV, Amazon Fire TV, Blu-Ray all connected to my BV12-65) that i wanted to replicate / access on my bedroom Avant 55. The key being having only a screen in the bedroom, no additional boxes. But the key to needing this set up is that i don't want a second cable box in the bedroom. The other digital sources (Apple TV etc) can be found mostly on a modern smart TV.

So using a matrix is a very high price way to avoid additional boxes in my bedroom - of course it looks incredibly clean and professional.

What i didnt realise is that the matrix is a little high maintenance, particularly over the peak of summer where the hardware can grumble a bit unless its in a cooled environment. Sending 4K video around through a matrix heats the thing up a lot.

Outside of that, i'm very happy with the set up - its super clean.

But its very expensive, and not sure i'd do it again..

Nowadays with only 2 tv’s in the household (in the old days I used to have 4) I would not even think of having a matrix.

At our place the need for having a second BV is to have a BV to show something different than what the ‘main’ BV does.

Both have a bluray player and the ATV (and of cource the mapped NL audio sources) and the built-in tuners, that are used individual.

Even back when there were 4 BV’s, there was not much need for a matrix - only thing that could be matrixed was a DVD/bluray player.

I understand that people might need it, when walking from one room to another (mostly to the bedroom) and wanting to continue

watching whatever was on.....it’s a cool function ;-)

Also if you have an external tuner box (especially one with extra paid for services and maybe a recording function) a matrix can be usefull.

If it is worth the costs and the efford, the user must know ——- basicly the more BV’s you have, the more a matrix may be meaningfull.

MM

That said - if I could have a ‘join’ function for video sources, just like with the audio sources in a NL setup.

I’d gladly say yes!

But that is not a matrix like we know it —— it is probably something that will never come....mostly due to copy right restrictions. 

And I’d probably have to improve my home network for that as well.

MM

Millemissen wrote:

Nowadays with only 2 tv’s in the household (in the old days I used to have 4) I would not even think of having a matrix.

Good point, in a modern house we have more screens but less Tvs...

mbee wrote:

Millemissen wrote:

Nowadays with only 2 tv’s in the household (in the old days I used to have 4) I would not even think of having a matrix.

Good point, in a modern house we have more screens but less Tvs...

B&O doesn't play "nice" with other brand TVs. If you have an integrated home with many TVs, including B&O, a gateway and matrix are a fine way to spend an additional few thousand euro to save a few hundred. 

By the way, If your pet vacation feeder is connected in an integrated home, starving to death is the result of murder. 

Millemissen wrote:

That said - if I could have a ‘join’ function for video sources, just like with the audio sources in a NL setup.

I’d gladly say yes!

But that is not a matrix like we know it —— it is probably something that will never come....mostly due to copy right restrictions. 

And I’d probably have to improve my home network for that as well.

MM

MM-

You bring up a good point about the video "join" function. The matrix ALMOST has us there but we still must press an extra button for which matrix source we want to join. Which really isn't all that bad. However, I always felt that the BeoLiving video had a flaw in it. In the video, we see the man sitting on the sofa on a very awkward date (or awkward marriage) press a BLGW virtual scene button on his iPad that says "Continue in Bedroom." That scene really doesn't work in reality. It would be like a true video "join" function. Unless he only uses one video source, he would need to have the BLGW macro include the matrix source. This wouldn't have been the case on a Beo6 since there are submenu screens on the Beo6. However, the BeoLink iOS app does not have submenus like that for scenes. I'd wondered if anyone else had caught that.

beojeff wrote:

Millemissen wrote:

That said - if I could have a ‘join’ function for video sources, just like with the audio sources in a NL setup.

I’d gladly say yes!

But that is not a matrix like we know it —— it is probably something that will never come....mostly due to copy right restrictions. 

And I’d probably have to improve my home network for that as well.

MM

MM-

You bring up a good point about the video "join" function. The matrix ALMOST has us there but we still must press an extra button for which matrix source we want to join. Which really isn't all that bad. However, I always felt that the BeoLiving video had a flaw in it. In the video, we see the man sitting on the sofa on a very awkward date (or awkward marriage) press a BLGW virtual scene button on his iPad that says "Continue in Bedroom." That scene really doesn't work in reality. It would be like a true video "join" function. Unless he only uses one video source, he would need to have the BLGW macro include the matrix source. This wouldn't have been the case on a Beo6 since there are submenu screens on the Beo6. However, the BeoLink iOS app does not have submenus like that for scenes. I'd wondered if anyone else had caught that.

You mean, he couldn't quickly and easily transfer the porn video to the bedroom?😎

Jeff wrote:

beojeff wrote:

Millemissen wrote:

That said - if I could have a ‘join’ function for video sources, just like with the audio sources in a NL setup.

I’d gladly say yes!

But that is not a matrix like we know it —— it is probably something that will never come....mostly due to copy right restrictions. 

And I’d probably have to improve my home network for that as well.

MM

MM-

You bring up a good point about the video "join" function. The matrix ALMOST has us there but we still must press an extra button for which matrix source we want to join. Which really isn't all that bad. However, I always felt that the BeoLiving video had a flaw in it. In the video, we see the man sitting on the sofa on a very awkward date (or awkward marriage) press a BLGW virtual scene button on his iPad that says "Continue in Bedroom." That scene really doesn't work in reality. It would be like a true video "join" function. Unless he only uses one video source, he would need to have the BLGW macro include the matrix source. This wouldn't have been the case on a Beo6 since there are submenu screens on the Beo6. However, the BeoLink iOS app does not have submenus like that for scenes. I'd wondered if anyone else had caught that.

You mean, he couldn't quickly and easily transfer the porn video to the bedroom?😎

Sadly, what he transferred was a car racing video. Like I said, an awkward date -- or awkward marriage!