Im missing the B&O Magic in(at) the Moment

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Weebyx
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Posted February 20, 2015 at 18:43 GMT
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I have been waiting many years without buying a new Audio system from B&O.. I have always been first mover, bought all my systems over the years (BS4500/BS7000/BS3000/BC2/BS9000) normally when they were launched, as I was astonished with the moving parts, and the look and feel of B&O..

Really wanted the BS5 when it came out, until I heard about the PC problems and the embedded XP opererating system, and as a software developer, I could not get my self to pay that kind of money for a windows XP computer with a fancy mouse attached..

Then I heard about the Moment, and was excited, have been waiting a long time to see and hold it, and I am really really dissapointed.. It is completely missing all the things I expect from my past experience with B&O, the design is boring and nothing is mooving, the software seems overly complex, and it is not even finished yet, I really don't need to learn gestures for more devices, to use my audio system..

Then I had a thought today at work.. I am working with a former worker at B&O, he had a lot to do with software, was one of the guys on the 2300 DAB prototype, he coded a lot for the BL7000 remote, and we started talking, and suddenly it hit me...

The "Moment" I would buy without a thought today, would be an upgraded version of the BS3000, I love the sliding glassdors, I love the light that is shining on the disc..

However, it should not have the CD player, it should have "the panel" from the moment, but in a vertical version that still could be detached, and also placed both sides out. One way to just look nice, and one way as a display with the tablet.

That way I would have my "fix" of moving parts, and still have the new features of the Moment..

I will not be buying the Moment any time soon, it would be at least a year, until I find out if B&O this time actually delivers their promise of getting the software up and running. I am not very happy with beeing beta tester for products..

Am I totally wrong here ? or am I just getting old ? :)

/Weebyx

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Sal (archived2)
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Posted February 20, 2015 at 19:11 GMT
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You're not getting old, and you're one of many who are still trying to figure out the Moment. I think there are expectations people have for a product from B&O. These expectations are set from years of experience and reputation. The Moment seems to be anti to a lot of B&O's DNA in many respects, and maybe will shed light on where the company is headed.

The Beosouond 5 was B&O's answer to a digital media sound system. The Moment, one could say is the evolution of that first attempt, or would it be a completely different philosophy?

Since both the Beosound 5 and the Moment are currently on B&O's website as sound systems, maybe the Moment is less of an evolution as another way of thinking about musical access.

I may be one of the few here, who REALLY REALLY liked the Beosound 5 / encore mechanics. Up close, it was engaging to operate, and it could be operated from afar by remote, and the large screen would display your interactions results. It looked like nothing else out there. It had a lot of B&O's magical DNA.

I love your idea of a Beosound with the ouverture / 2500 / 4000 / 3200 / 3000 sliding doors for access to a tablet which can be removed from the dock.

How about a screen behind the docking position of the tablet which constantly shows what's playing behind the glass doors as well? So the tablet can actually be a remote, and the base station can also be functional and beautiful.

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Iceman10245 (archived2)
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Posted February 20, 2015 at 19:17 GMT
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You speak to me from the heart. Also I am disappointed, because I love my master link and the teamwork of the devices.

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lonfred (archived2)
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Posted February 20, 2015 at 20:04 GMT
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I agree fully, but my greatest wish is an updated BC2 instead. All that BO stood for seems to have disappeared, where is the simplicity, where's the magic? The best that existed before was to expand my ML system with a new magic product then just choose one of 6 option and it was up and running without any problems.
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Chris (archived2)
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Posted February 20, 2015 at 20:14 GMT
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lonfred wrote:
The best that existed before was to expand my ML system with a new magic product then just choose one of 6 option and it was up and running without any problems.

ML was indeed a fantastic product but its a thing of the past. B&O choose a new way, the modern way with network compatibility. I am very happy that B&O still doing his best effort not to forget older customers with a ML-link and try's to integrate his network products in the best way. Can you tell me what other brand of audio would do that?

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kimhav (archived2)
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Posted February 20, 2015 at 20:18 GMT
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I think many of us grew up with the B&O aluminium and glass era which we now see as the basic elements for B&O products while the wood era that now seems the 'new' step is going back to the roots for B&O. So, the Moment, doesn't do it for me, I'm not a big fan of the wood panel, but I have to admit that it did look better than expected when I visited my favorit dealer in Malmo. But, if B&O would release an updated version of BeoSound 5 Encore which have a improved gui for larger music archives including 24-bit audio support (as the Moment) and as well provided me with ML-connectivity or NL-connectivity (as it now seems that there will be a NL/ML Converter Light); I would buy the unit directly.

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lonfred (archived2)
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Posted February 20, 2015 at 20:23 GMT
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"I am very happy that B&O still doing his best effort not to forget older customers with a ML-link and try's to integrate his network products in the best way."

I agree with you fully. But a little higher gear from BO had not been wrong, now they have been missing a lot of sale opertunities for a couple of years to many of their old ML clients that only would like to have a basic (but up do date) controll of their music.
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Kim Christiansen
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Posted February 20, 2015 at 20:59 GMT
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I have been  playing  with ideas  very Close to this. I imagine  the center  ofte my  overture partly replaced by oak and and a display. If i Can fit in a raspberry pi with wolfson audio board i AM All set to drive my bl5s digitally from an amazing looking audio system. MayBe some of us should form a b&o hacker's group.

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Millemis
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Posted February 20, 2015 at 21:24 GMT
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kimhav wrote:

.....provided me with ML-connectivity or NL-connectivity (as it now seems that there will be a NL/ML Converter Light); 

There is no 'NL/ML Converter Light'!!!

It was just my way of describing a new 'ML-AudioMaster replacement box' in another recent thread!

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

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Millemis
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Posted February 20, 2015 at 21:25 GMT
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Chris wrote:

lonfred wrote:
The best that existed before was to expand my ML system with a new magic product then just choose one of 6 option and it was up and running without any problems.

ML was indeed a fantastic product but its a thing of the past. B&O choose a new way, the modern way with network compatibility. I am very happy that B&O still doing his best effort not to forget older customers with a ML-link and try's to integrate his network products in the best way. Can you tell me what other brand of audio would do that?

+1 on that!

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

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