I gave up my B&O receiver (Beosystem) for an Onkyo!

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I have had a Beosystem 1 receiver hooked up to my non B&O TV (samsung) for over a year now.   Unfortunately I don't have the funds necessary to purchase a B&O TV so I make do with what I can afford.  I suspect a lot of others would like to integrate their B&O speakers into a home theater but can't afford a B&O TV.  I have seen a few threads regarding people asking about non B&O receivers but none with actual experience, so here goes:

As stated, I had a Beosystem 1 hooked up to my Samsung TV, used only for audo switching.  The Beosystem outputs 1080i and I wanted to take advantage of my 1080p sources.    I had my PS3 for DVDs hooked up directly to the TV via HDMI and the audio out of the PS3 to the BS1.  This worked fine, but resulted in several remotes, etc.   I did have a Harmony remote to control it for a while but returned it as I didn't care for the format (too cumbersome as it was the 1100 series). 


My speakers that I am using are 2 BL8000s front, 2 BL6000s rear, B&W ASW850 sub, and a pair of BL3s for center.  I became increasingly disappointed from the sound coming from the BS1.  I wasn't able to change the center channel volume, and the only adjustments I was able to make were changing the volume of the fronts and rears.  Volume on the sub had to be done manually.  Music really never seemed that great and I wasn't able to set any kind of special equalizer settings for this, etc.

So.....I purchased a new 2010 version Onkyo TX-NR3008.  Now, this beast has everything I was looking for.  Tons of inputs.  HDMI 1.4a switching (I have a 63" Samsung 3D TV) for 3D pass through.  After hooking it up I realized the advantages of HDMI connections.   All the components talk with each other.  For example,  I have a Samsung 3D Blu-Ray and turning it on will turn on the TV, receiver, and change the source on the receiver.  Turning the receiver to a different source will pause the Blu-Ray automatically.  Turning the TV off will turn off the whole setup.  The Onkyo remote can control it all as well.   The Onkyo is also a learning remote and I actually taught the remote some of my Beolink commands so that I could control my light fixtures (LC1s connected to some lamps). 

The Onkyo comes with a mic that you use during a setup procedure in order to use a sound processing called Audessey.  Audessey corrects for speaker placement, acoustics, and size.  By placing the mic in different seating arrangements it will correct for these and make sure that everyone in the room gets great sound.  The difference before and after doing this was staggering.  I watched some movies and it was incredible how clear everything was.  Dialogue was up-front and the effects/sub were there when they needed to be and not overpowering when they shouldn't. 

Audessey also supports up to 9.2 channels (there are a huge number of other sound formats supported).  So, I added some rear back surrounds, and some front "height" channels.  I used some non-B&O passives for these.  I was limited to 5.1 with the BS1, and only to Dolby digital and DTS. 

Using the Onkyo with my B&O active speakers was quite easy as I just plugged them in to the pre-outs.  So far, the only downside that I have come across is that the speakers in the rear click off and on when the volume is low and there are scenes where not much info is happening in the background.   For most movies that I watch, this isn't an issue. 

Hopefully this will give some insight to others looking for a similar purchase!

 

 

Pleased you are happy. I am not surprised as the BeoSystem 1 was getting old and clearly lacked the adaptability of the Onkyo. How do you find the remote? Most other makes seem to have too many buttons and are plastic  which is one of the main things I would miss if I changed brands.

Doctor wrote:

Pleased you are happy. I am not surprised as the BeoSystem 1 was getting old and clearly lacked the adaptability of the Onkyo. How do you find the remote? Most other makes seem to have too many buttons and are plastic  which is one of the main things I would miss if I changed brands.

I actually like the remote.  It is of course plastic, but I was never fond of the Beo4 really.  I like to actually see what my buttons (e.g., words on them) are doing and the backlight is nice.  I like the weight and heft of the Beo4 but that's about it.  I find that the buttons on the Onkyo remote are very well laid-out.

 

 

The problem I have with that sort of remote is that I cannot read the buttons without my glasses! And by the time I have found those, I have usually forgotten what I wanted the remote for!! πŸ˜‚

Doctor wrote:

The problem I have with that sort of remote is that I cannot read the buttons without my glasses! And by the time I have found those, I have usually forgotten what I wanted the remote for!! πŸ˜‚

Same problem here, and with my reading glasses mounted i cant see the TV, and I have to find out why.

I bought an Onkyo TX-NR 708, and its set up with an LG 42", BG 5000, computer, Sky, blue ray, BL 8000 front and some noncoms back, it works ok, but for listening to the radio, vinyl and music CDs, I use my BM 2400, BG 2404 SMMC4, S45s, IMO better stereo sound better FM reception.

It may be that I am not able to ajust my Onkyo properly, but the manual lacs a lot, and I will have to surf the net every time I want to trim or do something special.

 

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SΓΈren Mexico wrote:

 

Same problem here, and with my reading glasses mounted i cant see the TV, and I have to find out why.

I bought an Onkyo TX-NR 708, and its set up with an LG 42", BG 5000, computer, Sky, blue ray, BL 8000 front and some noncoms back, it works ok, but for listening to the radio, vinyl and music CDs, I use my BM 2400, BG 2404 SMMC4, S45s, IMO better stereo sound better FM reception.

It may be that I am not able to ajust my Onkyo properly, but the manual lacs a lot, and I will have to surf the net every time I want to trim or do something special.

 

I'm guessing the FM stereo may well be better in the BM2400 but suspect the sound differences that cause you to prefer the BM2400 otherwise are due to not setting up the Onkyo properly.  It is a complicated machine and I have only just begun to explore all of the options.  Did you set it up for Audessey room correction yet for movies? 

The Onkyo isn't going to be easy-as-pie setup like a Beosystem, but that's because it can do many more things than even the BS3.

 

 

The above is totally true - tons of content packed into that box!

I recently just installed an Onkyo TX-SR506 7.1 system in an SD/composite configuration for an old client. For integration, we used a Philips Prestigo remote which supports all the devices, has learning capabilities and macros...

I did the Audyssey measurement (takes forever!) but didn't really get a chance to listen afterwards. I am being invited over for a movie and I'm really looking forward to it. I'm still trying to figure out how the hell you change the speaker config. on this thing. It seems like the source button decides what comes out where but when I plugged in my ipod for a quick connection test it automatically started playing in 7.1!! Whacky... 

Location: San Francisco

I'm an automotive audio and acoustic engineer. I design loudspeakers and full sound systems for new automobiles. I also dabble with studio, consumer and pro audio projects from time to time.

For music stereo sources just use the "music" button in the middle to cycle through speaker config, or just change it to "pure audio" on the receiver and you will get proper 2.1 or 2.2 channel playback. Just did this with my turntable and sonos. 

Also I did the Audessey and only did 3 placements (sitting positions) but it only took about 15min plus another few for the calculations.  Does up to 8 seatings.

15 minutes is a long time when you are sitting perfectly still and silent!! πŸ˜‚

I had no idea they could do eight...

When I set it up it asked for exact center then left then right, or something like that.

Location: San Francisco

I'm an automotive audio and acoustic engineer. I design loudspeakers and full sound systems for new automobiles. I also dabble with studio, consumer and pro audio projects from time to time.

There may be a difference with my receiver and yours...as far as the # of seating positions.  In between positions during the testing  I had to run upstairs and tell my kids to "BE QUIET!"  😁 

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