Howto setup a NON B&O amplifier with Beolabs (3.1 or 5.1 surround setup with Pioneer Kuro + Pioneer AVR)

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Steve at Sounds Heavenly wrote:

Hi everyone,

Superb thread, sorry I missed this previously. The following summary may help:-

All Beolab speakers can be used with a non-B&O AV system, although Beolab 2000 and 3500 should be avoided as these don't behave well as part of a surround sound setup. Beolabs 2, 7-1, 7-2, 7-4, 7-6, 10 and 2500 don't have Line input modes, so these will need a trigger signal to activate them when used with a non-B&O AV system. Other Beolab speakers not mentioned below can optionally use these trigger cables, but they aren't essential. Beolabs 5, 2000 and 3500 need a B&O remote control to activate them when used with a non-B&O system Beolabs 50 and 90 require the B&O app to set them to Line mode when used with a non-B&O system

All other Beolab speakers can be used in Line mode with an AV receiver that has RCA pre-out sockets fitted. (They can also be used with the speaker terminals of a receiver or amplifier via an extra converter box). Don't connect Beolab speakers directly to the speaker terminals of a receiver, as this will cause damage to the speakers.

Speakers with Line input modes can be set to trigger on and off automatically when the music plays - we find that in over 90% of setups this works well. In a few cases where users tend to listen at lower volume levels, the speakers can turn off from time to time when in use, so in these cases it can be helpful to use trigger signals to manually activate these speakers while the receive is powered on.

The USB output of a TV should not be connected to Beolab speakers, as most TVs have electrically noisy voltage rails, which can cause unwanted noises through the speakers. The 12v trigger on an AV receiver should also not be connected directly to Beolab speakers (several receiver manufacturers have told us that doing this could damage the receiver and would void their warranty). for this reason, I don't offer cables that use the 12v trigger on the receiver.....if you decide to use these, please check with the seller to ensure that the 12v trigger is electrically isolated from the audio connections of the speaker to avoid any risk.

The safest option where a trigger signal is needed is to provide this via a mains power adapter, you can then either control this manually or use a remote control to power this on and off when required.

I am always happy to help with any enquiries, as we are setting up systems like this on a daily basis. Please feel free to get in touch via my sponsor link below if you have any questions about using Beolab speakers in a non-B&O AV system and I can help you to get the best results.

Kind regards, Steve.

Steve.

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Hi Steve,

Thanks, you always have a sollution even better sometimes than my dealer😁,.

I am looking to replace my Beovision for sorry MM a TP Screen and dolby atmos amplifier. How do you trigger the labs 5 directly from the receiver? Or do you always need the remote first to turn them on? That is a pain...

Thanks

Thanks chucky,

We have many ideas and solutions that B&O themselves don't offer, hence why so many of their dealers use our cables πŸ‘

However, Beolab 5 will always need a B&O remote control to set the speakers to Line mode before use - unless you have a system such as Crestron or Lintronic that can interface with the speakers directly, or a high-end universal remote that can emulate 455kHz B&O IR codes.

Kind regards, Steve.

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Ok so you need a scene to trigger the Beolabs. Why is everything so complicated . It seems changing a beovision to a normal tv is like building a house.

I need to do some more homework.

Will a programmable BEO 6 do the job? Or is it better to use the Beolink Gateway with Lintronic and a BeoRemote 1? Do you have RS232 cables which I can run through a 20 mm pipe? My gateway is in the fusion box 15 meter away.

Thanks Steve!

Hi chucky,

Yes, a Beo6 remote is ideal to activate Beolab 5 speakers.  I don't get involved with Beolink Gateway or Lintronic, as these generally need specialist support on site, so they are better arranged via a local installer.

Please drop me a line via my sponsor link below with any cable enquiries and I will be happy to help.

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I've purchased all my cables from Steve great resource!  Unless you have a B&O TV there are way more economical ways to get a surround system from a non B&O receiver, with way more flexibility and performance.  

Dropped you an extensive email Steve, not sure you got it. Pls let me know.

Thanks for the support as always!

Thanks chucky,

Email received, will reply tonight!

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Hi. 

 

The set up is great, I hope you don't mine me asking a question my friend has just disposed of his beovison 4, but has kept all the speakers, problem is he can't rewire them, I can see you have been able to do this, is it possible to use the beolab 1 transmitter, to do this ? 

Hi there I use the beolab transmitter and have my surrounds set up wireless.  So, I have some beolabs hooked up through line-in (front speakers and center), some passive non B&O speakers for rear surround connected through speaker wire, and my main left and right surrounds are hooked up through the transmitter.  Works perfect.  

Thanks for the reply, unfortunately, these can't be rewired is it possible to just plug in the speakers with an rj45 adaptor and have the optical cable from the LG TV will this allow to work with the optional or?

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