Howto setup a NON B&O amplifier with Beolabs (3.1 or 5.1 surround setup with Pioneer Kuro + Pioneer AVR)

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This week-end I finally made it:

Setting up my Pioneer VSX-LX60 with Beolab 4000 (center) and Beolab 8000 (fronts).
Using a KEF PSW2500 acitve sub, also.

So I went from a Canton setup

 

To Bang & Olufsen again.

It is so much nicer, isn't it?

You need an AVR (Audio Video Reciever) or at least an Amplifier that has pre-out (non amplified signals for the amps built in the Beolabs) and triggers. These trigger usally have 12 Volts.
Next you get come cables from link :

The upper one is a mono cable for the center speaker.
I used this one to attach one Beolab 4000 and uses a normal powerlink cable to connect another Beolab 4000 speaker.

The lower cables are stereo calbe (left and right channel). I used one in cobination the a connector (to have a female end) and a y-splitter to attache the two Beolab 8000.

The third cable might be used in a future setup. Bought this because cable are about 50 to 60 Euro and shipping is appr. 25 Euro.

 You need to connect the RCA plug in the pre-out  output of your amp AND the small plug into the trigger out. For the pioneer you set the required action in the set-up: e.g. if SAT or PS3 is chosen, active both triggers (to power on the beolabs).

Why is this important?

The trigger signal is always active and keeps the Beolab 8000 (fronts) alive = turned on, even when there is a scene with much dialogue. Otherwise after 3 min. (?) the speakers would turn off with a popping sound.

The automatic set-up routine of the Pioneer amp worked very well.

Next issue will be using another pair of Beolabs or the Beolink MCL2P/Beolink passive that we use at the moment with the Beosound 2300 AND the Pioneer amp. Another y-splitter cable is here, but I still need a coupler/doubler. We will be using Powerlink to RJ45 adapters for this as well. I will update this as we move along.

 Hope this is useful for you!

Best regards
Ralf

 

PS: If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask.

 

My B&O Icons:

BeoCenter-9500.png BeoCenter-9500.png
Beoremote-Beo4.png Beoremote-Beo4.png
Beovision-11.png Beovision-11.png
Beosound.png Beosound.png
Beoplay-V1.png Beoplay-V1.png
Beoplay-H95.png Beoplay-H95.png
Beoplay-E8.png Beoplay-E8.png
Beoplay-A1.png Beoplay-A1.png
Living Room: Beosystem 4, Beolab 7-2 (Center), Beolab 9 (Fronts), Beolab 8000 (Rears), Screen: Sony KD-85XH9096
Home Cinema: Beosystem 4, Beolab 7-4 (Center), Beolab 9 (Fronts), Beolab 4000 (Rears). Projector: Sony VPL-HW55
Home Office: BeoVision 11-46, 4 x Beolab 3, BeoCenter 9300 (BLC 1611/ML/NL)
Bedroom: Sony KD-65XH9077, Beosound Essence MK II with Beolab 6002 and Beolab 11 (all white, wall-mounted)
Dart Room: BeoPlay V1-40 on floor stand
Guest Room: BeoVision 7-40 MK IV, Beolab 7-2, BeoSound Ouverture

Great post Ralf - thanks so much for sharing all the details

 

And yes !! it looks great 😁

Ralf,

thank you for your post and picture. I have a ROTEL RSX 1057 with a 12V trigger - single.

Any ideas how can I use a single trigger port for 6 beolabs( 2 8000's, 2 6000's  a center and a "planned"subwoofer)? Because all of them turns on and off as soon as they don't have any signal - about 1 min.

Maybe a sort of trigger  "" hub"" ?

Liviu

Well I turn on 2 x Beolab 8000 with one trigger and 2 x Beolab 4000 with the second one available.
For the rears I need a third one (not there...) OR use the RCA to LINE-in for the center channel.

There is a trigger hub - sort of - emotiva et 3 - but this is the only one I found so far.

In your case: one trigger should be enough for the fronts - try line-in on the beolab 6000s and in case you will get an active sub non B&O this should be easy - just rca to rca...

Ralf

My B&O Icons:

BeoCenter-9500.png BeoCenter-9500.png
Beoremote-Beo4.png Beoremote-Beo4.png
Beovision-11.png Beovision-11.png
Beosound.png Beosound.png
Beoplay-V1.png Beoplay-V1.png
Beoplay-H95.png Beoplay-H95.png
Beoplay-E8.png Beoplay-E8.png
Beoplay-A1.png Beoplay-A1.png
Living Room: Beosystem 4, Beolab 7-2 (Center), Beolab 9 (Fronts), Beolab 8000 (Rears), Screen: Sony KD-85XH9096
Home Cinema: Beosystem 4, Beolab 7-4 (Center), Beolab 9 (Fronts), Beolab 4000 (Rears). Projector: Sony VPL-HW55
Home Office: BeoVision 11-46, 4 x Beolab 3, BeoCenter 9300 (BLC 1611/ML/NL)
Bedroom: Sony KD-65XH9077, Beosound Essence MK II with Beolab 6002 and Beolab 11 (all white, wall-mounted)
Dart Room: BeoPlay V1-40 on floor stand
Guest Room: BeoVision 7-40 MK IV, Beolab 7-2, BeoSound Ouverture

Ralf,

sorry for my mistake ( I wasn't home): I looked at my Rotel right now and it has 3 12V outputs named: 1,2 and zone.

This way I think I can manage the fronts and the rears. The centre will be rca-line in.

But what about the subwoofer since I am planning a Beolab 11/2 ? Maybe the "zone" trigger can be used as well? That would greatly simply the problem.

And how do you manage 2 8000's/6000's from 1 trigger? Is your cable 2 RCA's + trigger to 2 RCA's?

Liviu

Ah, I saw now the details about your 2 RCA's + trigger to powerlink. Can't you simply conect it to an 8000 and then to run a powerlink cable between 8000's? will it differentiate left from right speaker ( of course setting this at the 8000's switches).

I thought so, too.

But the Beolab 8000 has one powerlink socket only....

Best regards
Ralf

My B&O Icons:

BeoCenter-9500.png BeoCenter-9500.png
Beoremote-Beo4.png Beoremote-Beo4.png
Beovision-11.png Beovision-11.png
Beosound.png Beosound.png
Beoplay-V1.png Beoplay-V1.png
Beoplay-H95.png Beoplay-H95.png
Beoplay-E8.png Beoplay-E8.png
Beoplay-A1.png Beoplay-A1.png
Living Room: Beosystem 4, Beolab 7-2 (Center), Beolab 9 (Fronts), Beolab 8000 (Rears), Screen: Sony KD-85XH9096
Home Cinema: Beosystem 4, Beolab 7-4 (Center), Beolab 9 (Fronts), Beolab 4000 (Rears). Projector: Sony VPL-HW55
Home Office: BeoVision 11-46, 4 x Beolab 3, BeoCenter 9300 (BLC 1611/ML/NL)
Bedroom: Sony KD-65XH9077, Beosound Essence MK II with Beolab 6002 and Beolab 11 (all white, wall-mounted)
Dart Room: BeoPlay V1-40 on floor stand
Guest Room: BeoVision 7-40 MK IV, Beolab 7-2, BeoSound Ouverture

Ah, ok...was thinking about the  2 powerlink sockets of the 6000's.

So : for 8000's I also need and Y splitter.

A lot of cables:)) CAn you please send me a link ot this splitter? Thanks a lot!

My B&O Icons:

BeoCenter-9500.png BeoCenter-9500.png
Beoremote-Beo4.png Beoremote-Beo4.png
Beovision-11.png Beovision-11.png
Beosound.png Beosound.png
Beoplay-V1.png Beoplay-V1.png
Beoplay-H95.png Beoplay-H95.png
Beoplay-E8.png Beoplay-E8.png
Beoplay-A1.png Beoplay-A1.png
Living Room: Beosystem 4, Beolab 7-2 (Center), Beolab 9 (Fronts), Beolab 8000 (Rears), Screen: Sony KD-85XH9096
Home Cinema: Beosystem 4, Beolab 7-4 (Center), Beolab 9 (Fronts), Beolab 4000 (Rears). Projector: Sony VPL-HW55
Home Office: BeoVision 11-46, 4 x Beolab 3, BeoCenter 9300 (BLC 1611/ML/NL)
Bedroom: Sony KD-65XH9077, Beosound Essence MK II with Beolab 6002 and Beolab 11 (all white, wall-mounted)
Dart Room: BeoPlay V1-40 on floor stand
Guest Room: BeoVision 7-40 MK IV, Beolab 7-2, BeoSound Ouverture

liviu_o wrote:

Ralf,

thank you for your post and picture. I have a ROTEL RSX 1057 with a 12V trigger - single.

Any ideas how can I use a single trigger port for 6 beolabs( 2 8000's, 2 6000's  a center and a "planned"subwoofer)? Because all of them turns on and off as soon as they don't have any signal - about 1 min.

Maybe a sort of trigger  "" hub"" ?

Liviu

Thanks for the good post ralph. You have a lovely setup

I run all of my beolabs (2 lab 1's, 2 lab 8k's and a lab 2) through the same trigger.

You can solder them all together if you make the cables by yourself.

Otherwise you can buy anything like the http://www.inewidea.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/image0052.jpg

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