How to save Bang & Olufsen

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Let's start fresh!

1. Fire David Lewis. I like him just fine, but good lord. He hates computers! That's like hiring a vegetarian as a butcher! We want MEAT!

2. Diversify video. I think anyone reading these boards can tell what a powder keg our video segment is. Kill the BeoVision 4. Panels are commodities. Stop trying to push a boulder up a hill. Make a BeoSystem 3 "lite" without a picture engine and automation for a single panel instead of dual viewing modes. These features are rarely used and could potentially halve the price. I think a $4k surround sound processor would tickle many of the BeoWorlders I usually spar with.

3. Kill BeoSounds. Drastic, but reflecting reality. The BeoSound 5 should have been a remote and not a stereo. There. I'm out of the closet. The BeoMaster 5 should be a media server. Music lives in your hands or on a screen. There's just no place for a stereo across the room any more. If the BeoSound 5 was a wireless controller that could move around the house and play to any room it was in, our stock would explode. Right now its a worrisome artifact from a strange time for a strange company. (that felt liberating)

4. Build a game changing media engine. Not a glorified NAS device, but a true game changer. This is how we'd become the Apple of AV. I look at it this way. Video is a cluster-____. Every service has a corresponding set top box with its own menu, remote, cords, etc. Now some services are stowing away on other STBs, like netflix creeping into blu-ray players. Now I can have the crispest video along with the worst video! All in the same box!!!

Let's build a platform instead of a product. I know that we've got something like this in the works, but it will fail unless it's comprehensive enough to do the job. We'll never build enough sockets on a device to support all the services, so build a dashboard (like the iPhone did for applications) where television, DVR, on-demand, Netflix, YouTube, etc. can plug in. Put a computer in the TV and then give it a menu to navigate services. No more boxes stuffed in a closet or hanging on a bracket. No bundles of cable. Just software and ease. Sounds crazy, but it makes total sense and last time I checked, wireless internet was pretty stable. Computers have worked this way since the GUI was invented. Icons on a desktop, not boxes attached with cords. 

5. Wireless. Making ML wireless was never a good idea. It's still ML. Even if the connections were robust, it has all the same limitations on flexibility that ML did. Imagine turning on a product and seeing it register on your BeoSound 5 and then being able to welcome it into the ecosystem and operate it? Sounds like the bee's knees, right? (also sound a hell of a lot like Sonos) It may not make sense to turn on a TV in another room, but now that we do so much with home automation, it seems more relevant then ever that we control rooms we're not standing in.

There's loads more, but these, for me, are the big ones. This is the dream list. Doesn't mean I won't defend current products, but I certainly have my own bones to pick!

Trip... I like your style!!!!! Can't find myself in everthing you've written up... BUT.. as a whole... Yep.. that's the way forward!

My B&O Icons:

BeoCenter-9500.png BeoCenter-9500.png
Beoremote-Beo4.png Beoremote-Beo4.png
Beovision-11.png Beovision-11.png
Beosound.png Beosound.png
Beosound-Essence.png Beosound-Essence.png
Beosound-Emerge.png Beosound-Emerge.png
Beosound-Balance.png Beosound-Balance.png
Beoremote-One.png Beoremote-One.png
Beoplay-S3.png Beoplay-S3.png
Beoplay-M3.png Beoplay-M3.png
Beoplay-H9i.png Beoplay-H9i.png
Beoplay-Earset.png Beoplay-Earset.png
Beoplay-E8.png Beoplay-E8.png
Beoplay-A1.png Beoplay-A1.png

Dear Trip:

Nice post.  The idea of a post Beosound area sounds intriguing.  I agree with your assessment of the BS 5; hopefully, it is just the beginning.  

I agree with B&O going with less 'boxes' & more software based interfaces.  However, B&O needs to improve its software writing/GUI mojo.  Beoport can make a grown man cry.  

Getting rid off the BS is nice & just let the legacy BS holders know that there system will no longer be supported past a certain.  I will have let my BS 9K & BV 7 (mk III) sit in corner for other purposes. 

 

Opportunities to sale & also anger many.  

Dario

 

 

I sort of like the way our software has matured. I like its look. And while BeoPlayer is a frustrating disaster, I really like the natural motion of the BeoMedia's menu. It's just limited in multiple modes of sorting. BeoSound 5 is a huge improvement and does what it needs to quite well. 

Otherwise it appears that there is some great talent hiding in IdeaLand. Hopefully they're allowed to run wild the same way the physical designers have been for so many years. They're undoubtedly the future as there are simply less boxes to give form to. 

Trip, I'm pretty sure your refreshing strategy is the right thing for B&O at this moment.

Possibly a man of vision?

tony

I agree with some of your points, too.

But in my opinion the physical design and engineering is the personal favorite for choosing Bang & Olufsen.

Look at the iPhone: It's just amazing when it's powered on. When shut off it's just a fine plate of glass.

I LOVE the physical experience on the Beosound 5, the Beo 5 or the Beosound 3000, 9000 etc. I'm a human with healthy hands and I want to use them for physical controls!

Nobody only wants black boxes that only come to life with a screen ... that's simply awful. The professional music industry (digital mixers, "virtual analog" synthesizers etc.) understood this some years ago and started offering physical control units for their software sequencers, sampler etc. and people LOVE it.

Have a look at the german Virus TI synthesizer. It's a computer that emulates the analog synthesizers from the 1970-1980 ... with the options of modern devices (storing your sounds, computer control etc.) and it acts as a controller for the software on your PC/Mac, too. There are MANY parameters accessible and imagine how awfuly it is if you have to control every single knob just with  your mouse.
So they designed a surface  that looks like a great analog synthesizer with modern computer power under the hood and simply great physical controls over your sound AND your software:

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/dec04/images/virustidesktop.l.jpg

Bang & Olufsen went the same way with the Beosound 5 controller and I think it's the right way! It's made in Denmark with high quality physical design which you'll love to touch and you'll simply SEE what you pay for.

A computer product with up/down buttons and a simple box is simply boring ... and nobody understands why a black box with a little software should be expensive.





 

 

 

Great thread: Let's save B&O. Here are my suggestions:

1. Add full AV media capability to the Beosound 5 with a hidden CD/DVD/BluRay slotdrive. Make a wireless connection with the Beomaster 5 that should also work as a HD recorder. With this, there is no need for other B&O peripherals.

2. Focus on Beosystem 3. Make Beosystem 3 your main B&O hub. Improve it's digital picture quality. Integrating Apple TV, Playstation 3 is it's best feature.

3. Drop the clunky and useless Beo5. Improve Beo4 with backlit keys, color display and customizable user interface . Don't expect customers to accept the Beo5 concept for programming.

4. Focus on  speakers with acoustic lens.

5. Adjust prices of  BV4 panels and add some BV4 LCD panels. If not, everybody will buy Panasonic or Pioneer displays for their Beosystem 3.

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