Help for a NL newbie

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LukeS
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322 posts
Posted April 30, 2020 at 21:04 GMT
#2137769

Dear all,

I've just updated my system to the brave new world (to me) of NL, swapping out my beloved BV7-32 mk3 for a V1. While I was at it I replaced my Masterlink Gateway with the Beolink Gateway, and also invested in a Blink Nl/Ml converter so I can join my existing ML network to the party. 

I love the user experience of the V1, and I'm seriously impressed with the NL/ML converter, which is making things work like B&O should. My only problems occur when I try and bring the BLGW into the mix. My setup is as follows:

Main TV - BeoPlay V1 (no relevant option setting when using Beoremote One - defaults to VM1) integrated with the Nl/ML converter but set as in different room and not sharing speakers. Set up to forward light/command signals to the BLGW as per the beoliving website instructions.

ML VideoMaster - NL/ML converter connected to Bomaster 7000 (option 0) via 1611 converter (as per idea catalogue)

Audio Slaves - 2 Beolink Actives and 5 Blink Passives, all most recent software with settings to forward command/light to the BLGW and in option 6

BLGW

Video slaves - BeoVision 7-32 mk3 and BeoCenter 6-26 both in option 6 (not currently connected)

At the moment I'm able to use the V1 and the NL/ML converter with my BeoMaster 7000 perfectly - everything works as it should, and the audio slaves all work as expected too. However, as soon as I connect the BLGW it is as if there is some kind of master-link conflict - the ML side of the network becomes unresponsive to IR commands and I cannot capture commands from the master-link on the BLGW. I'm occasionally able to force the BLGW to recognise one of the passives, and can even control those sources via the believing app, but the IR sensors are dead.

I'm pulling my hair out as I've spent the last week changing master-link cables, resetting devices, powering up and down in different orders, and setting up test systems to make sure all the components work properly. 

Incidentally the mlgw works perfectly with the setup; the only reason I'm keen to get the BLGW up and running in its place is the onscreen overlays on the V1 for my automation system.

Does anyone have any suggestions on what the problem might be?

I'm at a bit of a loss, although it did spring to mind that maybe I need a master-link power box in the absence of a ML VideoMaster? Would connecting a BV in option 6 help here?

Sorry if this is a really stupid question... I've read as much as I could from the ideas catalogue, the BLGW manuals and the NL/ML installation guide

BE
beojeff
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2851 posts
Posted May 1, 2020 at 11:17 GMT
#2137770

One rule that I've discovered is that when you are using an NL/ML Converter with the setting to forward LIGHT/CONROL commands to the BLGW, those commands are only received and transferred when you have an IR eye connected to the NL/ML Converter itself.

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1990 (archived2)
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543 posts
Posted May 1, 2020 at 11:52 GMT
#2137771

How did you connect the BLGW to you ML network? I think you cannot “daisy chain” with the NL/ML Converter, both need to be independently connected to the ML network.

LU
LukeS
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Posted May 1, 2020 at 16:10 GMT
#2137772

Thanks Jeff and 1990 - The NL/ML converter has the IR eye connected and I'm not daisy chaining the BLGW and the NL/ML Converter (by which I think you mean connecting one unit with a masterlink plug, then 'daisy-chaining' the other using a CAT7 cable between the RJ45 masterlink inputs on both units?)

To help I attach a schematic of the setup I'm trying to get working (accurate apart from the speakers - I'm using BL6000 and BL4000 but you get the idea)

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1990 (archived2)
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543 posts
Posted May 1, 2020 at 17:51 GMT
#2137773

Did you powercycle all your Masterlinkproducts, cutting power for all of them, reinstating power starting with BLGW?

LA
lawrencejmcook
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713 posts
Posted May 2, 2020 at 10:30 GMT
#2137774
Hi Luke,

In your diagram, shouldn’t your BLGW be connected only once to your ML network?

From what I can see it is connected twice: once directly (red ML line), and once via the NL/ML converter (green network line).

Shouldn’t it only be connected via the NL/ML converter (I.e. disconnect the red link to the BLGW)?

Only a question, as I was struggling to get my BLGW & NL/ML converter to work too.

Lawrence
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beojeff
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2851 posts
Posted May 2, 2020 at 11:11 GMT
#2137775

Ah! By connecting speakers and the IR eye directly to the NL/ML Converter, the IR signals are not received as ML commands. Rather, they send the commands that are mapped under "IR Mapping" in the NL/ML configuration. Maybe try that.

BE
beojeff
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2851 posts
Posted May 2, 2020 at 11:15 GMT
#2137776

P.S., I believe that you could also Set both the BS7000 and the NL/ML Converter to Option 1 so that they each receive audio and video commands respectively.

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