Just take a short break hfat!

I know just how you feel.  Opinions that more often than not help no one, plus personal attacks, seem to be a toxic combination.

The Electrifying Duo have much to answer for!

Graham

Dear hfat

That is indeed bad news, our interest in B&O equipment are not in the same line, I´m into vintage, where you are into the more modern equipment, but we share the love for B&O and the forum.

I can only advice you to ignore the new comers that are polluting the forum with their fantasy opinions of B&O, which is more about modern equipment than vintage, in the vintage forum we have lost members due to heated discussions  , but we still have the old guard with us and some of the members that did not post for a long time, are coming back again.

So, the short version, stay here and keep the quality of and the forum alive. ignore the pollution.

I would agree with Søren:

"stay here - ignore the pollution"

Greetings Millemissen

hfat wrote:

So I have decided to retire from Beoworld for a while and get back from time to time to see how things develope.

Sorry to hear this but, with respect, there's no need to tell us all. Sounds a bit 'flouncy' to me. "Goodbye cruel world, you'll miss me!".

A forum is what you, the contributors contribute. I regularly post in our magazine forums and 60% of the conversation is nothing to do with the magazines or the magazine content. Why not? As a group of individuals use the forum to discuss general content.

It's the same as football forums. A football forum, away from matchday, consists of 80% non-football content and there can be some aggressive opinions. It's just the way it is. As I've said many times before, the written word comes across far more aggressively than speaking to someone face-to-face. Again, that's just the way it is. It's been that way since BBS days in the 90s. I've been in this game a long time, and all forums are the same. The more popular they become, the more characters become involved. Same with a nice lively discussion down the pub. You get various characters who can get passionate about a subject.

If a forum was just here to discuss B&O, there would be far fewer posts and people would complain there was a lack of content or the board came across as a ghost town.

As I said above, posts about B&O content come from the contributors.

These constant discussions about 'where has x gone?' and 'why aren't people nicer?' actually put off a lot of people, in my opinion. There's no surprise some of the professionals have moved on.

vikinger wrote:

Just take a short break hfat!

I know just how you feel.  Opinions that more often than not help no one, plus personal attacks, seem to be a toxic combination.

The Electrifying Duo have much to answer for!

Graham

Oh thanks for the Credit! Now I feel bad. I thought it just got less toxic already?.... 

Try audiogon if you like to discuss about AV they are all about being open. Contrary to popular believe they are pretty okay with B&O product recommendations. 

I don't think the OP is being 'flouncey' at all...   If he didn't care about BeoWorld and the people on here, he'd have shrugged his shoulders, logged off and not come back.

He's given us a reason for leaving, which I'm very sad about.  It's a free world, with free speech, but there are always people with verbal diarrhoea of the fingertips who can become a little tiresome.  I once heard a saying that "the people with the most to say have the least to tell".  Wether this is true in this case is of course open to debate.

The 'old BeoWorld' which the OP refers to is the one where opinions were respected, debates were well thought out, and nobody appeared to be speaking as if they were in any way superior to the next man.  This seems to be an ethos which has drifted of late.

So please, everyone, can we get back to how it used to be...  stop talking for the sake of talking, respect each others opinions, offer your own opinions with a little less aggression and/or condescension and think about wether your post could upset, offend, or worse - bore the pants off anyone before you press the 'Post' button.

I'm sure I speak for many people here, but it needed saying.

Lee

I have always disliked the Audiogon forums experience. It is quite horrible, and a nightmare to navigate and actually find anything at all!

Please stay here.

For those of us only interested in vintage B&O, the forum hasn't changed much, with people only willing to help and learn.

I for one don't indulge other categories and find being here as pleasing as ever!

@MODS - does the site have an ignore member feature that has been disabled??