falling prices of semi vintage?

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I was surfing blocket.se the swedish market place for just about everything..

are these exampels of cheap equipment?

100kr currently 11€

BL3500 at 4500kr

Beosystem3500 (master tape and CD) at 2500kr

Link converter 1611 at 400kr

beosystem 5500 including MCP 3500kr and 4000kr

and I only listed the ones that seem to be in really good condition, else not of interest

so what do you think?

It is the times of te world right now.. No one want to buy anything, boats are unsellabe, unless you sell the boat at 50% of the "market price" or the market price as it shall be.. 
When the time is getting better the prices will rise again..

 

These are prices that I have seen the past two - three years. Also similar to what equipment goes for on Lauritz.com or Bukowski's market (website).

I have had e few times myself that what I considered as a bargain proofed to be very hard to sell later on.

 

Definitely, the prices are dropping. Especially here in Denmark (where there's more B&O than anywhere else 🙂 ).

A few examples of what I have bought this year:

Beosystem 4500 (master, tape, CD, turntable AND Beovox 4500): 2700,-DKKr (But I sold the turntable for 1500,- DKKr 😁)

Beolab 2000:  950,-DKKr.

Beolab 4000:  2500,- DKKr for a set in almost mint condition ( I have to say that the 'usual' price here is 4000,- to 7000,-DKKr ).  Just lucky 🤩

My B&O Icons:

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That's quiet simple

at the end of the day Bang & Olufsen (never targeted the poor) is considered luxury

As every aspect of every day life people seem be more aware and careful with money (unless of course there's real bargain to get) 😕

Also there seem be less collectors willing to keep up with outdated and moody equipment, or and incapable to pay for repairs

trends are generally changing, and new devices flooding the market are cheaper and cheaper (4 tablets released in one week 😉)

When times get tougher - the flood gates will open and prices are set to fall (bit in keep with the rest of Hi-Fi's with virtually no value at all) even more

bob

Steffen wrote:

Definitely, the prices are dropping. Especially here in Denmark (where there's more B&O than anywhere else 🙂 ).

A few examples of what I have bought this year:

Beosystem 4500 (master, tape, CD, turntable AND Beovox 4500): 2700,-DKKr (But I sold the turntable for 1500,- DKKr 😁)

Beolab 2000:  950,-DKKr.

Beolab 4000:  2500,- DKKr for a set in almost mint condition ( I have to say that the 'usual' price here is 4000,- to 7000,-DKKr ).  Just lucky 🤩

 

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Yes, it's seems that the B&O pre-used devices market is saturated... I am following the market of vintage 60's and 70's B&O equipment since 2 years.

Globally, at the moment there are few seller on ebay which dissolving some very big collections of vintage devices and the prices are already very low

Locally, for example here in central Europe, it is the same. I saw collection of 250 B&O vintage devices in one big depot sold for a peanuts. Year ago it was not possible to get e.g. Beomaster 1000 or Beomaster 900 under 100e and now you can choose the very nice one and it can be gotten for 40 or max. 50€.

Only the very rare and mint condition equipment has a relative good price but also not so good as before one or two years.

And as somebody said, there are no collectors more as earlier (those collections are now at the market -> one reason for saturation) and a new (and cheep) mass production overrun everything.

In the short term I don't think it will be any price correction on the way up ... Therefore -> good times for collectors (if any few are a live outside from beoworld J ) and bad times for a trader …

 

Made the same experience here in Switzerland - prices are falling and falling.... also newer Beolab 9 for 50% from the original price.

From my point of view several indicators are responsible for the second life prices:

- No "must have" in the actual productportfolio (e.g Overture, Beosound 9000 with Beolab 8000, Avant)

- Younger generation is focused on i devices - BeoPlay is the right answer instead of having a house / flat with Masterlink. Poor man's multiroom is possible with several airport express and (cheap) active speakers or old Hifi systems.

- prices of the TV's are still high (not the V1) and a Flat TV from other brands are also looking "not bad" (the remote controls are horrible, but some of the TV's can be controlled by ipad / iphone)

 

Being at the sharp end of all this, I totally agree.

Pre-owned prices have taken a real battering over the last 6-12 Months, with some products becoming just simply not worth buying - even if 12 months ago they were considered 'desirable'

Anything totally non-HD in the TV range has to have another element to it (say the BV5, which does it on PQ and design) or be so cheap you just cannot say no.  Less and less people are 'treating themselves' to the B&O they always wanted when they saw it new and it was out of their reach, so the 'bread and butter' items like BeoSound 3000 / BeoLab 6000 combo's for instance are simply not being bought which results in oversupply and a softening of prices.

Even 720p HD has become undesirable. It's 1080p or nothing if a product needs to retain value and sell quickly.

I saw this coming a few years ago, and now it's here.

Lee

Low prices still means you really can get very high quality B&O at bargain prices. I do not buy B&O with an eye to future price: I buy it to enjoy!

I have really struggled to try and justify getting rid of a BC1 mounted on a tall pole stand so that it can be replaced by a BV10 or 11 on the wall. (I can't!)  The fact of the matter is that the BC1, although 4:3 CRT, is a stunning design, and looks fantastic on the pole stand. Strange thing is that whilst BV1's and BC1's plummet in price, the taller poles have suddenly found a new use for the later flat screens and so are now fetching £500-£1000! (Whether I would really want to buy a fixed 

Yeah, I've seen the falling prices for about a year too, but could this actually be a good thing? Might this open the pre-owned market to folks that would not have experienced B&O before? If that is a positive experience, could that translate into more sales of new product in the near future?
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