Millemissen wrote:

What if:

The Moment AND the Essence are both playing (in seperate rooms) and you want to listen to, what is playing from the Essence in the bedroom/V1/BL17?

Which command would you use? The Moment (PatternPlay) - as you wrote - was connected and assigned to 'Music'. How are the sources of the Essence connected/assigned to the V1? I guess the 'Join' command would not do the job there.(?)

MM

There are actually two scenarios to above

1. You click "join" on the remote. It will select the first available source on the network (could be either Moment or Essence). If e.g. the Moment sound was picked up and you want to listen to what is played from the Essence you just hit the "join" button once again. It will cycle through available sources to join on the network and play this music through the V1/BL17

2. There are two sources; one Music source for Moment and one Music source for Essence. These sources are visible when viewing the "Sources" list on the V1 (or any other NL-tv for that matter). You can then rename the two sources to e.g. Music Livingroom (for the Moment) and. e.g. Kitchen (for the moment). And then assigne these sources to any quick links on the Beoremote one.

Note that scenario 1 with pushing "join" will not start any music on the V1 if not any music is playing on either Moment or Essence. Scenario 2 however will kick of "distribution" and play whatever music or radio that was played before hitting "pause"  on that particular device (at least for the Moment - haven't tested for the Essence to be honest).

Hope this clarified it?

Thanks Luke - it did (for the main part).

Actually the 'double-Join' is very clever ;-)

Your note to scenarario 1: that is logic, but nice to know that it also is handled as logic.

The scenario 2 note I am not quite sure, that I understand.

Do you mean, that if you use a remote Essence/Moment for distributing a source to a V1 (or another NL-BV), it will influence, what is playing on the remote Essence/Moment? That you can't use one source of the Essence/Moment in the local room at the same time as using another source (from the Essence/Moment) in the NL-tv room? In short = only one source of the Essence/Moment can be active regardless of where it is used?

P.S.

Now, when we are at it (for owners of the A6/A9), I suppose, that the 'Join, Join....' function goes for the sources of these devices too!(.)

MM

Sorry if I was a bit unclear in the explanation of scenario 2 🙂

Your interpretation is incorrect. You can absolutely use different sources in different rooms without any problems. What I ment was that instead of utilizing the "join" feature on the Beoremote you could instead select a NL-Source on the BV-TV. When you add a Moment for example it adds upp a number of NL sources in the TV list of available sources. Eg -> Select "SOURCES" on the BV -> In the list new NL-sources ar available. E.g. NL TuneIn, NL Music, NL PatternPlay. When you cycle through the sources in the TV it is displayed in parantheses which device that "owns" the source in the syntax NL Music ("SourceName") e.g. NL Music (BeoSound Moment). In my list i have NL Music (BeoSound Moment) AND NL Music (Essence). This means that when in my bedroom I can fire up my tv and select the source of choise. When I do that the music will automatically kick of on the V1 BUT without turning on the music on the Moment and playing through the Moments speakers. So the Moment in this case is used for just distributing the music through a relevant source e.g. Deezer, tuneIn or your DLNA-server. This is very convenient in my scenario since I like to listen to music in my bedroom and can use the Moment for this (also the Essence of course, but since I have both I normally use the Moment).

So to make things simple. Let's say that my Essence speakers in the kitchen was playing my Dinner playlist from deezer and after dinner i turned off the music in the kitchen. Later on i entered my living room where my moment is and played a Jazz album from my NAS-DLNA. When I go to bed I turn the moment off and enter the bedroom. While in the bedroom I now by ONE click can start either stream on my V1 WITHOUT turning on the speakers in the living room or kitchen. So if I select the shared source from the living room, my V1 will start to play the Jazz from my NAS and if I select the Essence-sourc it will start playing from my Dinner playlist.

On top of this I can of course use the App to change music, add/remove rooms to the music stream and so forth... It is really convenient I must say. Much better than my sonos system I used before 😁

Sorry for the quickly hacked text but hoped it is better understandable anyhow. A bit tired to write now so sorry for that 😎

Got it!

Thanks for the clarifications - I guess they might be interesting to other future NL-users as well.

MM

When you are ready - I have another question.

What are the restrictions - what can not be distributed?

I have understood, that you can not distribute something, that is AirPlay'ed (e.g. from an Essence).

And you can only distribute Spotify Connect (again e.g. from an Essence) to another NL-device, if this supports Connect as well?

Is this correct?

MM

@Luke - B&O should send a film crew to your home and put you up on YouTube !

No AirPlay distribution.

Work around is aux of an ML device.

The Spotify connect I can't comment about.

I have started using deezer and there's no problem with that.

It will play all over with all kinds of logins.

mjmedlo wrote:

No AirPlay distribution.

Work around is aux of an ML device.

'workaround is aux of an ML device' - what is that supposed to mean?

Omly workaround I know of Is to connect an AirPlay receiver to the line-in of e.g. a BS Essence

in order to distribute the analog output of that device.

MM

Luke

That is a great testimonial and exactly the kind of experience I am looking for!

Out of curiosity, why do you think it's better than Sonos? I currently have a Sonos setup and will need good arguments to get convince my wife!😕

One of the things that's still missing is an alarm clock function which I am using a lot. Any tips on how to resolve this?

In my living room I have a V1 with Lab9's. How should I connect the speakers when adding a Moment? To the Moment or to the V1? I guess I would keep them at the V1 to have all the System 4 functionality available. But this would mean that the Moment can play without speakers attached. Is that possible?

Grtz

Jan

My understanding is (confirmed in earlier post when I asked a similar question), that you will be able to connect the moment to the V1 and keep the speakers connected directly to the V1. The moment can play music with speakers connected to a TV. No need for direct link.

I understand that this indirect connection of speakers through a TV would not work for the Essence. The essence needs to be connected in a direct way to the speakers (or indirect only through multiroom set up).