Does vintage B&O sound better?

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Of the passives I have two sets of RL6000, a pair of S45's but I've got a good friend who has two sets of MS150's that I could kindly ask to borrow which would probably be best.  The only problem is finding space for everything.

I agree with what ja said up there near the top. My '88 BM4500 is fantastic and I also have a Yamaha R-7 Natural Sound from around that period as well as a newer Yamaha Natural Sound from around '02 and the R-7 wins hands down. Today's new stuff is nice, but it can't compete with old school😐.

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I'm an automotive audio and acoustic engineer. I design loudspeakers and full sound systems for new automobiles. I also dabble with studio, consumer and pro audio projects from time to time.

The Beovox MS150 is the best match if you ain't got Beovox Penta's.

RL6000 may be able to do it but S45 may not as the Beomaster 8000 has 100 -150 watt depending on how many speaker setups you plug into it.

The Beovox MS150 is the speakers the Beomaster 8000 is born with. As you have 2 setups aviable get'em.

Since I started playing around with my Beovox speakers as 2 speaker pairs on my Beomaster 6000 and 8000 I find it hard to live on a single pair.

 

You have been fortunate in picking up a Beomaster that is probably one of the most underrated units, or rather it is pretty much forgotten than under appreciated.

Another unit that would surprise you for the detail and easily listenable would be the Beomaster 3000 - or its Beocentre equivalent  the Beocentre 3500. The latter usually sell for less than the Beomaster 3000, partly because they do not ship well and also its not easy to find a good one whose lid operates properly - they do sound good so if one comes up within driving distance you could get yourself a bargain.

Some units need to be paired up with the right speakers, the Beomaster 1001 or Beomaster 1200 really does need to be connected to Beovox 1200.

The Beovox 45-2 are a brilliant speaker as long as you keep them well within their limits, most of us truly do not need much else, but if you do need too much the Beovox 5700 or the Beovox MS150 are nicely excessive - I prefer the former because they have a more neutral sound.

The '60 Beolab 5000 is far better than the speakers it was designed for, this is a very dynamic amplifier, more so than anything in the Beomaster 1900 through to Beomaster 4500 range. The only things that outshine it are the Beomaster 8000, Beomaster 5000, Beomaster 4400.

I've always hankered after the Beolab 1 speakers, but there are a number of issues, the Beolab 8000 seem to rate quite highly but I for one would prefer to get my hands on the 3 way units rather than the 2 way ones - they are apparently a bit bass light. The pentas were a much better option.

After that you suddenly find most of the options have limitations that should not occur, the Beolab 6000 are only fit for tv surround sound and not as hifi speakers in themselves, the Beolab5 whilst superb needs lots of space, so that leaves the Beolab 9s - not cheap but apparently well rated.

The old stuff does have its merits, but to get the best you'd best be prepared to do some maintenance, age takes its toll, your other option is to try outbid everyone else when Martin (Dillen) is selling anything on EBAY - and good luck on that - he has done all this work for you and we all know it!

Agree completely about the BM1200 - sounds very odd through S45s but with BV1200s, it is remarkably good.The Beolab 5000 amplifier is also wonderful I agree. A bit more exciting to listen to than some of the others, I would guess it has a bit of a peak at the top end but is, as Casdave says, dynamic and simply pleasurable to listen to. Also completely agree about Martin and his products. Beautifully presented and he clearly has quite a following on eBay who recognise his work!

My B&O Icons:

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Well who would disagree with Martin/Dillen anyway?

If it was not for him I do wonder if I still would be looking for a working Beogram 8002.

 

burantek wrote:

in short, i would say yes, but... i think it is simply a different sound.

IMHO...

bm4400 + mc120.2 =  WARMTH

bs9000 + actives (discounting bl5 or 9) = CLINICAL

i like both!

 

 

I'm agreeing wholeheartedly with this neat little summation - I've got my BM6500 running through RL140s & it's a gorgeously warm sound compared to a BC2 running through BL5s on which I've played the same CD & whilst every little inflection is there, it lacks the overall richness somehow. 😜

Curious about posts going to moderation here. Sent one to this thread about midday! 😉

It doesn't matter Soundproof, your Avatar says it all!🙂

I have a turntable, CD player and Mp3 player connected to my 1960s Beosystem 5000 (Purchased from Casdave above)
There is not a lot that can beat it in this modern day.
Heck, even my little Beomaster 900K has a mellow tone that I really like.

Andy T.

Well i haven't yet had the privillege to play with the older stuff, but the oldest B&O i've had was the ouverture/2500, and it was a pretty poor performer. Not really a great product to compare to, the best sound i've experience with all my stuff )all new) is the headphone output of the beosound 4 > that is astonishing to me, would love to try out an old beocenter one day :) Would die for those mc120 or m100's too, they look NICE

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