Does ML pass two-way signals from. MCL

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Hello, 

I have a Beosystem 6500 connected via a 1611 adapter to Master Link. 

If I connect a ML/MCL converter in other end of the masterlink cable, will two-way communication signals from a BL7000/5000(operated in a MCL room)  get routed over master link(and reach the beomaster 6500)?

On the MCL I also have several LC2 and I want to keep using them in a link-light setup.

Unfortunately, It's not possible to run a separate MCL cable to the BM6500.

 

Thanks for any advice

 

Best regards 

Jonas 

Short answer - no!

ML does not support two-way communication.

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

jonastr wrote:

If I connect a ML/MCL converter in other end of the masterlink cable, will two-way communication signals from a BL7000/5000(operated in a MCL room)  get routed over master link(and reach the beomaster 6500)?

On the MCL I also have several LC2 and I want to keep using them in a link-light setup.

Should be possible if there are LINK LIGHT compatible products on both (transmitting/receiving) ends.

An ML/MCL converter won`t work this way , because it uses the "new" round IR receiver, which can`t transmit IR commands.

But if you connect an MCL 2A box incl. IR receiver, it should be worth a try....

LC2s connected via MCL to your BS6500 will work anyway.

Years ago I had a BS7000 as main audiosystem connected to an AV9000 (videomaster) and an BV MX4000 MKI (2way) as a link TV connected via a Beolink video. LINK LIGHT commands worked through the whole setup without any problems - even LIGHT timers stored in the Beomaster have been executed - and if I remember correctly, it even worked when I replaced the AV9000 with an BV7-40 (LIGHT/CONTROL forwarding must be activated in the service menu)

BTW if you want to connect additional MCL boxes for LIGHT control, you don`t need the thick MCL cable,

you just need three wires - 5V,datalink, ground (...?)

Hope this helps - Welcome to Beoworld.

Stefan

I just tried configuring this with my system, but two-way didn't work!

I connected my BC9500 in main room to Beolink Converter 1611 with 7-pin Aux, then to ML/MCL converter (actually a 'Passive') with ML cable, then via MCL cable to my kitchen (existing setup) where I have an MCL2A and 2 CX50s.

One-way control worked fine (with the bonus of independent volume control for my link room!) but as soon as I switched the BL5000 to two-way mode it stopped working and I received the 'no-contact' indication.  I also tried LINK LIGHT control (from a BL1000 in the kitchen) and that wouldn't work.

EDIT:  But couldn't the ML cable to the BC6500 be re-purposed as an MCL cable?

 

 

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Thanks a lot for your replies, and to Guy for testing this out! The Beoworld forum is a great place :) 

Actually, the BM6500 is located in a part of the living room with two shielded cat. 6 outlets. 

I now understand that its safest is to run MCL directly from BM6500 using one of the cat. 6 cables (and then patch it over to the existing MCL network) 

Unfortunately, I need to use the other cat. 6 cable to connect a speaker at the same location as BM6500,and run it to a Beoaystem 3 In the opposite corner of the room. All the speakers  are connected to the Beosystem and not the Beomaster.

The best thing would be to have three cables, and then run the MCL, ML, and PL separate, but its not possible to get more cables through.One cabe short.....

Follow-up question, but in the above example connecting a BM6500 to ML via 1611 unit; does this then feed what ever audio that comes from the BM6500 into the ML?

Millemissen wrote:
Short answer - no!

ML does not support two-way communication.

MM

Sure?

The AV9000 was the first Beovision with ML and mine had two-way communication. 

Even the Beolink 7000 had a mklI for the AV9000 (for example sound 1 to 5 was added) 

 

Carolpa wrote:
The AV9000 was the first Beovision with ML and mine had two-way communication. 

I don't think that in this case the ML cable would be passing the 2-way info.  The AV9000 would be interrogated directly by the 2-way remote, hence the ML connection would not be a factor.

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kimhav wrote:

Follow-up question, but in the above example connecting a BM6500 to ML via 1611 unit; does this then feed what ever audio that comes from the BM6500 into the ML?

Yes but only if that source is selected from the remote room (the other end of the ML cable).  This assumes that there is no other 'audiomaster' in the system.

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Guy wrote:
Carolpa wrote:
The AV9000 was the first Beovision with ML and mine had two-way communication. 

I don't think that in this case the ML cable would be passing the 2-way info.  The AV9000 would be interrogated directly by the 2-way remote, hence the ML connection would not be a factor.

And how about the info from the connected Beosystem 7000? 

 

 

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