BV12-65 vs. BV11-46 vs. Eclipse 55/65 vs. Avant 55/65

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Giorgione
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Posted February 15, 2022 at 14:55 GMT
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Hi, I'm a longtime B&O fan and customer, bought my first jewel brand new back in 1991 (BS2500) is still in use, at least it's speakers. I'm also a long time forum reader but this is my first post.

Now to my question: I'm currently using a BV11-46 in a 5.1 (BL2 and 4xBL3) surround setup in my TV-room and now have the chance to get a near mint BV12-65 for less than 2k€. I'm mainly watching 1080 max. and even worse old stuff, enjoy some occasional streaming and football (my sons, mostly), stopped watching TV-broadcasting many years ago. Now I'm wondering what you guys would suggest going for: The 12-65, a slightly more expensive LCD Avant 55 or keeping the 11-46 until prices drop further for used OLED gear? Can't afford a new one, except the Contour which lacks compatibility with my existing setup.
Thanks for your advice! 

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Posted February 15, 2022 at 16:01 GMT
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Hi and welcome as a forum poster.

Honestly, from your post I understand that you really do not need tochange to another BV.

However, if you are in for something ‘new’/bigger, you can hardly go wrong with either of the mentioned alternatives.

You must consider that both are old devices - with the risks that old gear may bring.

 

Why not keep the 11-46 and put the spared money aside….for the future, when you will have to get another tv!


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Posted February 15, 2022 at 16:42 GMT
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If the BV12-65 comes with a BeoSystem 4: go for it.

You could get an different screen plus a center speaker at some point in the future…

Ralf

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Posted February 15, 2022 at 17:04 GMT
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Hi guys,

Thanks for the welcome and the quick reply. Ralf, I forgot mentioning that I first was interested in the BS4 only, but it was only sold as a package, of course! Will the BS4 work with an OLED 4k display?

Millemissen: You're right, but as mentioned above, I was initially interested in the BS4. However, the BS12-65 is a monster but I like it's design, The question here is: Will it be a step back compared with the 11-46!

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Posted February 15, 2022 at 17:47 GMT
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I don’t think a BV12 is a step back from a BV11-46! Never owned one but the plasma screen of the BV12 is highly recommended on this forum.

Be careful with the Avant 55, as it is very common for the video boards to die due to overheating. Even after replacement the problem still reoccurs in time. It’s a design error and I would stay away of this TV.

An Eclipse is very nice, wait till they fit your budget.

Hope this helps
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Posted February 15, 2022 at 18:07 GMT
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Giorgione wrote:

Will the BS4 work with an OLED 4k display?

Check my profile/signature…

I guess the BV12 is better than a BV11 - if you like Plasma, as I do.

But 4K screens are not Plasma, so had to give Full Array locally dimmed LED screens a chance - and I like the picture.

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olvisab (archived2)
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Posted February 15, 2022 at 18:20 GMT
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Keep the 11 46 or take a bv 755 mk2, 12 65 too old stuff.

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Posted February 15, 2022 at 19:42 GMT
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olvisab wrote:

Keep the 11 46 or take a bv 755 mk2, 12 65 too old stuff.

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How is a BV12 old stuff compared to a BV7-55?

BV12 is plasma screen from 2013, BV7-55 led screen from 2010 on. There is a difference between Led and plasma but very comparable picture quality wise.
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Posted February 15, 2022 at 22:36 GMT
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Ralf, I guess I'm really outdated: Full Array LED? I thought there was only OLED left nowadays. Checked your signature, so you have no B&O or 1080 HD screen anymore. What's the BS4's job then? Audio and PUC control only?  What about 4K settop box or ATV video signals coming to the screens through the BS4?

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Posted February 15, 2022 at 22:37 GMT
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Thanks for the Avant advice!

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