BS Essence in an integrated setup with tv?

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As you might know it is possible to use an Essence (2nd gen) - or a Core - as an integrated part of a NL-BeoVision - to let it share the speakers of the tv.

Would be nice to hear from someone, who uses this kind of setup on a daily basis.

How does the setup behave, when you start an Essence source via the app?

Does all sources act the same?

Does using Spotify Connect turn on the BV?

How about when you cast using ChromeCast to the Essence - or Airplay to it.

Or using bluetooth?

I suppose, that these sources also are visible in the source list (of e.g. a BV11) - (this is not the case, if the Essence is just connected to the tv).

Does the timer functions of the Essence turn on the tv, then?

When the Essence is integrated with a BV, can it still be connected to another (in another room)?

 

All these questions because I ‘only’ have personal experience with the Essence as a connected (to a BV in another room in my house) device.

A post from Mr Andersen in another thread about the behaviour of the Bang & Olufsen app used with an Essence/Core that is integrated with a BV triggered my curiousity.

Read here: 

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

Really - no one has a BS Essence or BS Core set up to integrate with his/her BV???

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

I'll see if I have time this weekend to move my Essence over to the BV and not have any speakers connected to the essence directly, and report back.

Thanks a lot Sal.

But I could do that myself at home.

Just thought that someone must have an integrated setup running already - and that he/she could report back.

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

Hi MM, I have a BS Core integrated with BV11 with BL9 as fronts and BL3s as surrounds and backs on a 7.1 setup. The reason I included a core into this is because I wanted to get spotify connect and chromecast added to my setup and control music via the B&O app. I also use DLNA a lot and have a large library stored on my NAS (qnap) using twonky server. All my files are in FLAC format and most were ripped from my old CD collection.

Chromecast and airplay do not work on an integrated setup (apparently due to licensing, etc)

Spotify connect works well, but if you make a queue on spotify, that would replace the queue that you have on the B&O app (ie you cannot program the core to play a song on spotify and then play another one from your on collection via DLNA).

On the other hand, Deezer and DLNA are supposed to be fully integrated, which would be nice that you can make integrated playlists using deezer and songs from your collection. However, whenever I do this, I have no sound from any song played from my NAS via DLNA. This is the biggest issue that I have from this setup. If I play the song directly from the BV11 via the home media, it plays fine...

Deezer HiFI works well on this setup as well.

 

Hi Millemissen

In an integrated the TV is linked to a Essence MKII or BS Core and "enhanced" with the capabilities of that product. If you play Spotify or other sources on the linked product (EZMKII or BS Core) it will play on the TV. You can also start the sources directly from the TV as the sources are added to the source list of the TV.

What we have done in the latest version of the app is to make this setup appear as one. This means that in the Home view you will only see the TV and only interact with the TV. So Deezer, TuneIn, expand etc. will all behave like it would for example on a BeoSound 1, just with the TV speakers. The integration will be detected by the app and you are notified when they are merged. 

This is quite complicated and in my opinion not something you do unless you get help from an installer or are a super user. When done this is, however, quite powerful and really makes the TV more capable. 

I hope this helps

Thomas, Bang & Olufsen

 

Thanks Thomas,

once I have my ‘new’ main tv - and I get the money together for an extra EZNKll/Core - I’ll give it a try.

I am pretty sure, that I’ll figure out how to set it up.

I was just wondering how much benefit there is in dedicating/integrating the EZMKll/Core to the tv versus having one somewhere in the setup ‘just connected’ to it.

Seems to be the way to go, though....since the NL capacities of the tv’s are far behind those of the audiosystems.

You (or Petros Beli...) really should do a tutorial video on this subject - in order to show the costumers, what is possible today in terms of integration.

Petros once made one, but things move on...new app, new products etc.

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

I’ll post pictures as soon as I get it up and running ;-))

MM

Location: Flensborg————Danmark

It works as if the Essence sources are built in the BV.

So the answers to most of your questions is yes.

Millemissen:

As you might know it is possible to use an Essence (2nd gen) - or a Core - as an integrated part of a NL-BeoVision - to let it share the speakers of the tv.

Would be nice to hear from someone, who uses this kind of setup on a daily basis.

How does the setup behave, when you start an Essence source via the app?

==> BV wakes up, applies the settings for this source and the music is played.

Does all sources act the same?

==> Per source you can configure the default settings like sound and speakers etc

Does using Spotify Connect turn on the BV?

==> yes, but I do not know if you will hear the music. It did not work in the past and now I do not have Spotify anymore.

How about when you cast using ChromeCast to the Essence - or Airplay to it.

==> BV wakes up, applies the settings for this source and the music is played.

Or using bluetooth?

==> BV wakes up, applies the settings for this source and the music is played.

I suppose, that these sources also are visible in the source list (of e.g. a BV11) - (this is not the case, if the Essence is just connected to the tv).

==> yes, see picture of previous post

Does the timer functions of the Essence turn on the tv, then?

==> do not know, did not try, but I guess it will work

When the Essence is integrated with a BV, can it still be connected to another (in another room)?

==> yes. and vice versa. Except for the licensing related problems (like with Spotify) it really works as if the BV has built in the sources of the Essence sources. In the app you still see two devices, but I understand that this will be changed and you see the BV alone instead and the BV will be able to do what the Essence2 or Core can do.

 

All these questions because I ‘only’ have personal experience with the Essence as a connected (to a BV in another room in my house) device.

A post from Mr Andersen in another thread about the behaviour of the Bang & Olufsen app used with an Essence/Core that is integrated with a BV triggered my curiousity.

Read here: 

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