The_Beonic_Man wrote:

I have had an ongoing issue with dark blue lines showing up on either side of the 7-40 when watching some Sky channels; Living and Virgin are particular culprits. My 7-40 is the Mark III model and was updated 2 weeks ago to the latest software version which I was hoping might fix things, but it hasn't.

I could have told you it hadn't as, if you remember, I have the same issue with my MKIV? :)

I also have the blue lines - they affect LivingTV, Film4 and other channels. It's got to be something to do with the size of their picture and how our TVs display them on-screen. For example, Film4 are showing The Departed, with thick blue lines. I've seen this on Sky HD and there weren't any blue lines. Difference is that Sky HD show panoramic versions, where the one on Film4 looked somewhere between 16:9 and 4:3 !

BTW I did  a Google search and there are hardly any discussions to be found - so I don't know how widespread this problem is, exactly. Looks like it could be more B&O than Sky.

Mind you Simon.....my MKIV *still* crashes when watching Sky. The BV8 never has a single crash. These BV7-40's do not seem to work well with Sky at all. BV10-40, perhaps?

Yes - I have noticed this for the last few months on Sky - especially Channel 5 (eg CSI Miami). I assumed it was a Sky issue.

My MK III sometimes does this as well.  Is it really an issue? personally I couldn't care less.  Sometimes I notice the blue lines down the side of the screen, then I watch the program and completely forget about them.  I can't help thinking some people never actually watch what's on their screen and spend their lives looking for "issues" and "faults" with their equipment.

It doesn't do it 'sometimes', it does it all of the time on many Sky channels. Plus, to be fair, the blue lines are about 2cm wide, each side. Pretty poor for modern programme on a £10,000 TV.

Mine does it all the time on certain channels also, but I only "sometimes" notice it.  When I turn my TV on I am pleased by the motor stand, the curtains, the picture and sound quality, the feel of the remote in my hand.  To me these things, and the fact that I am watching the program rather than looking for faults, mean that I don't notice such minor points.

(now you mention it and I look for them, the lines are there now while my wife watches a recording from More4).  They don't bother me in the slightest, but I suppose if I kept staring at them they would become a bit annoying

rednik wrote:

My MK III sometimes does this as well.  Is it really an issue? personally I couldn't care less.  Sometimes I notice the blue lines down the side of the screen, then I watch the program and completely forget about them.  I can't help thinking some people never actually watch what's on their screen and spend their lives looking for "issues" and "faults" with their equipment.

It is an issue for me Rednik yes. I am trying to get to the bottom of it and understand whether it is a B&O fault or a Sky fault. When I spent £20,000 in my local dealer several months ago it wasn't with the intention of spending my life looking for faults on the equipment afterwards. That is a rather strange comment that I don't quite understand.

Simon.

rednik wrote:

When I turn my TV on I am pleased by the motor stand, the curtains, the picture and sound quality, the feel of the remote in my hand.  To me these things...

Oh dear. Do you have the same feeling when your TV crashes when watching Sky? It happens here. I'm left holding the remote in my hand, whilst watching a lot of snow across the screen - doesn't matter how 'pleased' I am with the stand, curtains and remote....I'd rather watch my TV programme.

moxxey wrote:

rednik wrote:

When I turn my TV on I am pleased by the motor stand, the curtains, the picture and sound quality, the feel of the remote in my hand.  To me these things...

Oh dear. Do you have the same feeling when your TV crashes when watching Sky? It happens here. I'm left holding the remote in my hand, whilst watching a lot of snow across the screen - doesn't matter how 'pleased' I am with the stand, curtains and remote....I'd rather watch my TV programme.

All of our TV viewing is through Sky as I don't have an aerial installed.  Have never had an issue with Sky on my MKIII (or MKII previously) other than the Sky box locking up occasionally, like they all do.

Sorry if my comments annoy you, it's just I;ve met people who allow minor things to spoil their enjoyment of products before.  I have a friend who spent what I think is an obscene amount of money on a car, which I thought was the best thing I had ever driven or sat in.  His entire ownership experience was spoilt by a very minor issue which I wouldn't have noticed if he hadn't pointed it out to me.  He has never been 100% happy with any car (or watch, or motorbike etc etc) that he has owned, and I sometimes just wonder if some people here have a similar outlook.

However, if I had a major fault like my TV crashing I would think differently, but like I said, it doesn't, and I can easily live with a bit of blue down the side of the image

That's a fair enough viewpoint Rednik but I think its naieve to make sweeping statements and assumptions about other people who you actually don't know. I am curious, had you of seen the blue lines on the TV in your dealership at the time of purchase, would you still have bought it?

Simon.