I do deal with monitors everyday in my workplace so it’s not news to me either that oleds is better but mainly the difference between oled and current gen led monitors is the backlight being the difference as in color and brightness levels. The rest is processing and I guess that is also much improved every year albeit not as big of a difference between the yearly updates as from a 2014 Avant. Of course that will be a bigger difference. I just won’t pay for a 2017 screen in 2020, just like I won’t pay 900 euro for a three year old Apple Watch, even if the changes are incrementally small. For full price I want the latest tech. The newer screens I gather have more inputs of the newer standard which gives more flexibility and an updated beocenter might (or not) have atmos support as well, it would be nice. I don’t remember if it supports dts. As a pc monitor the screen should do not much as that image is to be presented as is but other media is usually processed a lot in the tv to compensate for cut frames and interpolation of the details in lower resolution media and so forth. Contrast is usually also dynamic and for hdr I believe Lg had made a lot of improvements in their latest sets. I have a MacBook Pro from 2017, it works well for me but is getting slow. That machine is stellar but the new ones is even better and soon with a new processor platform as well. That is also development that can be noticed but isn’t necessarily needed by everyone. But if I bought the 2017 today I would also pay much much less than I did then. But of course, if they didn’t iterate then it would perhaps still be expensive but who would prefer buying it then? Anyway, long story short, I just hope a new model will come out and that they do innovate and don’t just stop. There is just so long you can push an old model on the market and I don’t want the company to go bankrupt.I am not saying that you are not correct that newer is better in many terms, but calling it devastating when it is very minor updated is what I think is weird. The brands I mentioned don have HDMI 2.1 yet like the Eclipse, and that would be in my book a deal breaker here in 2020. So what I am trying to say is that the Eclipse is not outdated compared to most brands, but the HDMI is compared to the new LG. The picture improvement I would bet that you would not notice. I just bought the CX as a PC screen, and I cannot see any difference. OLED is just that much better than everything else. When you change from your Avant you will not be concerned when the OLED is from, you will just think why you did not buy it sooner. It is not devastating that they havn't updated it, but it is going to be really good when they do. Beovision Eclipse, Beolab 5, Beolab 17, Beosound 1 Google assist, Beoplay M3, Beoplay H6, Beoplay Earset
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Beovision Eclipse in late 2020, New version coming?
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Hallo Michael,
I would not buy the Eclipse today either I am with you there.
I bought the Eclipse when I saw in January 2018 what the C8 was going to be.
Nothing really improved so it was safe to buy the Eclipse.
And I went from a 1080P LG OLED, and again did not see a difference only on HDR.
OLED is great, and no others than expert can find the difference on normal viewing, or at least I don't think they can.
Most people would be happy with a regular led monitor too. I love my Avant in picture quality when it works as it is supposed to as well. So I agree in a lot you say. Anyway, I hope a new one will come soon :)Hallo Michael, I would not buy the Eclipse today either I am with you there. I bought the Eclipse when I saw in January 2018 what the C8 was going to be. Nothing really improved so it was safe to buy the Eclipse. And I went from a 1080P LG OLED, and again did not see a difference only on HDR. OLED is great, and no others than expert can find the difference on normal viewing, or at least I don't think they can. Beovision Eclipse, Beolab 5, Beolab 17, Beosound 1 Google assist, Beoplay M3, Beoplay H6, Beoplay Earset
The mayor difference between the models is upscaling mostly, in 4k the difference is not big. But regular to upscaled from 1080i to 4k is hugely different. So if you live in the UK and can get sky in 4k it matters very little. But if you’re in my boat here with 1080i as the normal for 99/100 channels it’s hugely different. The connections matter not that much either as 4k 60hz is years and years away as a standard😎
Well, HDMI 2.0 wont allow me to use the PS5 in 120 fps though... Also, I'm pretty sure, that 2.1 will allow picture/audio sync perfectly. I have on my Loewe huge problems with 4K BluRay disc ex. with sync, and there that (sorry, but *** TV) has very little ways of syncing audio which a dedicated receiver would be able to do.
Dunno if Beovision TV's have a solution for this, but that's surely also why I'm very focused on the HDMI issue. Would suck to have a crisp HDR picture with sound lacking 2-3 frames afterwards.
120fps at what resolution? Neither the new xbox or playstation will be capable of doing that unless the quality is terrible. Just look at an rtx3080 review🙂
Quite sure they promise a lot of games in 120 at 4k? A variety of fps at least.
Well no matter, my main concern is the Audio Sync. I have no idea if the eclipse has a sync setting.
Does anyone know when the release is for the next Eclipse? I hoped we’d see it with the Halo but no.
The mythical version 2........same 2 conclusions as whenever this question is asked.Firstly, no one really knows anything, and the amount of false dawns (misleading nods from dealers) has been remarkable.Secondly, although many dealers will say B&O are looking at a v2, no one even knows exactly what that means.So in short, nothing to report.I think this question has been asked every couple of months for the last 2 years.
Well, I thought we concluded v2 was real based on the language change in the app to “Eclipse FAMILY”, family added for emphasis. Just wondering if anyone knew anything new. :)
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