Uhm? Airplay 2, apple HomeKit or better processing and everything else that has evolved. Just to name a few. It’s a tv using a three year old panel that is worse than the cheaper newer Lg Oleds. I am sorry you feel so offended.Devastating?! Name one thing missing from the Eclipse, that you would get in a 2020 tv from Samsung,Philips,Sony or Panasonic? Beovision Eclipse, Beolab 5, Beolab 17, Beosound 1 Google assist, Beoplay M3, Beoplay H6, Beoplay Earset
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The Eclipse has Airplay 2 and basic integration with HomeKit, as do all Airplay 2 compatible speakers.
I am sorry you feel so offended.
To be fair, so far you've said you don't believe B&O stockpiled old LG panels (when we said they were custom parts), casually said you 'solve problems :)' and then a lack of updates from B&O with the Eclipse is 'devastating' (as if it's easier for you to do this than B&O) and now claim the Eclipse doesn't have features it has always had :)
Michael, I suggest dropping out of these Eclipse discussions as they will offend as you keep putting your foot in it.
As I said from the start, it's actually not easy to take the idea of the Eclipse - which is fantastic - and then replace it with a more 'off the shelf' part, yet keep a design which looks like a custom design and user-updatable in the future.
Actually only for sound, and it’s not the tv it’s just the beocentre.The Eclipse has Airplay 2 and basic integration with HomeKit, as do all Airplay 2 compatible speakers.
Actually only for sound, and it’s not the tv it’s just the beocentre.
These replies are becoming more and more bizarre!
AirPlay is primarily for streaming audio and the sound center component is the only one B&O controls. If you really need to stream from your iPhone to your TV, just get an Apple TV or similar. Like most people own. They are under £200.
Alternatively, just use the apps on the TV, such as YouTube or BBC iPlayer etc etc.
And if you wait for an updated panel, you'll get the Apple TV app. Obviously the fact B&O uses an older 2017 panel does restrict what they can support via the panel itself (ie. no Apple TV app).
You have the first things in a Apple TV, which is much better anyways.
And about better processing, can you see a difference, I sure don't.
And LG OLED cheap or expensive it is the same, okay B9S have a slower processing than C and GX, but again who can see the difference?
Not sure what is bizarre. I’m not defending using outdated panels that is not even in production. I already have the Apple TV but the question was what would be differences and I replied with true facts. How is that bizarre? I feel this forum is getting pretty rude and mean. For no reason. Would benefit B&O to not stop developing and pushing old tech for high fees. That is my opinion and I don’t ask that everyone agrees with it but let me have it without ridiculing.Another feature with real HomeKit implementation is that the set can be turned on and off with your Siri assist and and geofence. I use this every day for my home and it’s something I am waiting for to upgrade my tv as well.These replies are becoming more and more bizarre!AirPlay is primarily for streaming audio and the sound center component is the only one B&O controls. If you really need to stream from your iPhone to your TV, just get an Apple TV or similar. Like most people own. They are under £200.Alternatively, just use the apps on the TV, such as YouTube or BBC iPlayer etc etc.And if you wait for an updated panel, you'll get the Apple TV app. Obviously the fact B&O uses an older 2017 panel does restrict what they can support via the panel itself (ie. no Apple TV app).
I’ve heard many say the image quality on harmony is way better than the eclipse and many reviewers also clearly state the difference between the iterations. Again, why would I prefer an older panel to current technology? I honestly can’t see that. I simply rather have current technology than buy several year old technology for a higher cost. As I’ve said, it’s my opinion and I let you have yours.You have the first things in a Apple TV, which is much better anyways. And about better processing, can you see a difference, I sure don't. And LG OLED cheap or expensive it is the same, okay B9S have a slower processing than C and GX, but again who can see the difference? Beovision Eclipse, Beolab 5, Beolab 17, Beosound 1 Google assist, Beoplay M3, Beoplay H6, Beoplay Earset
Reminds me of BeoVision 7. Panel (TV) clearly separate from the BeoLab 7.x. Plus stands just like BV7 had.Eclipse v2 could be a modern version of BeoVision 7 🙂The only way around this is to lose the Eclipse shape and simply have a panel, separate bar, affixed to a stand.
I am not saying that you are not correct that newer is better in many terms, but calling it devastating when it is very minor updated is what I think is weird.
The brands I mentioned don have HDMI 2.1 yet like the Eclipse, and that would be in my book a deal breaker here in 2020. So what I am trying to say is that the Eclipse is not outdated compared to most brands, but the HDMI is compared to the new LG.
The picture improvement I would bet that you would not notice. I just bought the CX as a PC screen, and I cannot see any difference.
OLED is just that much better than everything else.
When you change from your Avant you will not be concerned when the OLED is from, you will just think why you did not buy it sooner.
It is not devastating that they havn't updated it, but it is going to be really good when they do.
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