I had a similar dilemma earlier this year and decided on the MK111, partly because of the problems one or two members were experiencing with their models at the time, and also because there are only incremental improvements on picture quality; I have quite a few DVD's and only one Blue Ray disc which also had a bearing!

If there were a significant technological improvement then the additional 4,300 euros may be warranted.

Either way, a great television.

P

If they were both priced the same I would buy the Mark IV because its a newer model. However, for such a difference in price, the Mark III represents excellent value for money. I bought the Mark III from new in November 2007 and it is an excellent TV, no question. HD sources through Sky and Bluray films through my PS3 are brilliant. If the TV has the software update 6 or later then you will have the black menus as I do on mine, you can put a DVBT module in the Mark III, I also have one in mine. Not sure about a DVB-HD module as never heard of that so you'll have to check with your dealer on that one or perhaps someone else can help. Not sure about Ethernet connectivitiy either as its not something I use. I can tell you that its definitly worth buying at a price of 8,000 euros. If you use the 7-2 speaker with it then you have a very impressive TV solution.

All the best,
Simon. 

Toralfsen wrote:

I'm thinking of buying a new TV, was thinking about the 10-40, but I wan the cinemafunction, so 7-40 seems to be a better idea. There is two options, demo-TV for 8200euros (MKIII) or a brand new for 12500 euros. Should I keep on saving money for the new one or buy a demo? And what do I loose on the MKIII? Do I get the new black menus? Can the DVB-HD module be placed in the MKIII? And the ethernetconnection, is that important?

I would go for the MKIII. Main differences are the panel 50 Hz vs. 100 Hz and DVD vs. BR. They both have the BS3, same speakers, stands, design.

For the panel I must admit I can´t really see a difference in picture quality. But if you think there MUST be a difference you will SEE a difference for sure. Concerning the DVD/BR difference I thought about replacing the internal DVD player by the BR player, but I did not, because

- the way to control theBR player via Beo4. You have to press the yellow button (SHIFT) before pressing the command...(!)

- Beo`s BR player (and BS3) can NOT decode HD audio - No DTS HS, no DD True HD...(!)

- no BD content. Though Beo`s BR player got an Ethernet connectionn, you can`t get BD live content on the MKIII.

-Price. The internal BR player costs more than 1000 Euros - incl. installation.

So I keep my MKIII - btw I`m happy with it - and bought an LG BR player BD 390.

- can be easily controled via PUC from main- and linkrooms (assigned as DVD2).

- can send digital and analogue audio and video simultaneously (for linkroom use)

- decodes HD audio - DTS HD, DD True HD....

- can play movies from (USB and network) hard disks (Don`t need my Tvix 6500 anymore..)

- has the BD live content - and YouTube function

- price is 240 Euros.

Hope this helps

Stefan

Toralfsen wrote:

... Do I get the new black menus? Can the DVB-HD module be placed in the MKIII? And the ethernetconnection, is that important?...

Sorry, I forgot: Yes, you will get the black menus. Since SW 5.XX menus are black on BS3. Afaik the DVB HD module can be fitted to MKIII.

Ethernet connection is for the BR player - BD live and BR software updates.

Stefan

Is the sound better on an external bluray player or inbuilt player in theory there should not be any difference

has anyone experimented with an external amplifier to see what benefit you would get with hd audio

HD audio is much better than DTS or DD. You can get HD audio out of your BS3 if your BR player can decode DTS HD or DD True HD to PCM multichannel. LG BD 390 is able to decode HD audio, Beo`s internal BR player not. PCM multichannel can only be distributed via HDMI. BS3 supports PCM multichannel, so an external amplifier is not necessary.

Stefan

What about the BV8-BV10???

Is it possible to get HD audio with a external blue ray player.🤔

I don't mean to hijack this thread with a question about the BV-7 55", but Stefan's list made me think.

Do we have any idea if B&O will update the BS3 on this bigger BV-7 to handle HD audio?  Also, any idea if the remote control of the BR will change on the bigger BV-7?

Mark

stefan wrote:

HD audio is much better than DTS or DD. You can get HD audio out of your BS3 if your BR player can decode DTS HD or DD True HD to PCM multichannel. LG BD 390 is able to decode HD audio, Beo`s internal BR player not. PCM multichannel can only be distributed via HDMI. BS3 supports PCM multichannel, so an external amplifier is not necessary.

Stefan

I thought the internal Blu-Ray would decode Dolby  True HD but not DTS HD?